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Thank you for your interest! We will definitely try to keep everyone up to date. The best thing everyone can do is follow us at http://www.facebook.com/ORCSeries. Currently, our priority is preparing for our upcoming fundraising campaign, which should start later this month.

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While I can understand and appreciate why people want a different/better tire, I feel that the Hoosier G60-15 is the best choice for the long term success of this class/series. These tires are affordable, widely available and consistent, and due to their relationship with IMCA I don't anticipate that changing.  Unless I am mistaken the biggest issue with these tires is their performance limitation. I feel those performance limitations are the best way to keep the cost of the class from getting out of control. Feel free to explain if you think I am mistaken.  At this point, anything can be changed.

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ENDWELL, NY – A new type of circle track racing is to come to the NY/PA area for the 2018 season. The Open Racing Challenge Series or O.R.C.S. will be a ‘Run What Ya Brung’ type series. This is a direct response to the ever increasing regulation and spec nature of motorsports. The goal is to offer an alternative premier support class for racers and fans who are looking for something different than ‘crate’ racing.

The O.R.C.S. rules are simples. Any car or truck that is safely built and maintained, weighs at least 3000 lbs and utilizes our specified tire (Hoosier G60-15) will be allowed to compete. Beyond that, the skies are the limit. You can use any engine, any chassis, any body and any drivetrain.
This will give the out of the box thinkers and the shade tree mechanics of the racing world an opportunity to shine. There is no turn-key  answer to winning in a class where your biggest limitation is your imagination.

It is anticipated that this class can be quite affordable. Many modern street engines can easily make the same horsepower as current purpose  built racing engines, but are not allowed under most track and series rules. Alternatively, If you do have an expensive purpose built engine, you don’t have to worry about it being torn apart at the races or deemed illegal. There is no need to spend a big portion of your racing budget trying to hide trick parts.

For the fans, they will have the opportunity to see the true ingenuity and personality of their favorite race teams. No more confusion and monotony of seeing race after race of nearly identical cars. The average fan with little to no knowledge of the competitors can easily choose if they want to cheer for the car that looks like their daily driver, the one that looks like it is out of a Johnny Cash song or the one that looks like a team of NASA engineers built it. This series is about having fun and bringing entertainment to the fans.

While no races are currently scheduled, the plan for the 2018 season is to hold a minimum of five races centered around the Binghamton, NY area (within 1 ½ hours). The class will be treated as a premier support class with all due respect and notoriety.  All races will pay a minimum of $1000 to win and $100 to start. Fundraising will be starting shortly and we are currently pursuing any possible publicity.

For the latest information on the Open Racing Challenge Series please Like and Follow our Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/ORCSeries/ or contact the series organizer, Nathan Stevens, at Nate@JALD.net.


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Racing Discussion / Re: Track Advertising
« on: December 08, 2013, 02:48:02 PM »
I completely understand where you are coming from, but your advise is 15 years out of date.  No one reads the newspaper any more.  Let me repeat  this: NO ONE READS THE NEWSPAPER ANY MORE!!  I am not just saying this as someone with a marketing degree, but also as someone that was a distribution manager with my local newspaper.  The majority of people that still receive the newspaper are elderly and most of them do not read it.  If you have looked at one recently, you would know why.  They generally aren't worth using as toilet paper.

If your goal is to build awareness, there are plenty of more effective ways of doing that.  Aside from the printing costs, posting fliers and posters around the community is usually free and does a great job of creating awareness.  Direct mailings are a bit more risky, unless they are well targeted, but are also decent at creating awareness.  Social media is great at targeted marketing, but it maybe difficult to reach outside of the existing customer base.  One area that a lot of tracks are missing out on is merchandising.  Here the fans pay to advertise for the sport, whether they are buying a track shirt or bumper sticker or a driver's.  These also takes it a step further in showing that there is a community, which is an important part of selling the product.

Now for the marketing lesson for today, awareness does absolutely nothing to sell a product unless the product is filling a customer's need.  It may make us feel better if more people know about what we do, but it doesn't bring anyone to the races.  What need does going to the races fulfill?  Some may say that it fulfills a need for entertainment or amusement, but how many other options are out there.  I've got a decent idea why I go to the races.  Why do you?

Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs

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Racing Discussion / Re: Does the leader get the lane all the time?
« on: December 07, 2013, 12:11:30 PM »
Here's a question for you all.  You spend lap after lap getting chopped by the leader, backing out in the corners to avoid being driven into the tires.  A lot of those laps you were well past their back tire, up into their door.  Eventually, you get a solid enough run that you can't back out.  They don't give you the line, so you door them out of the way.  You get past them but over drive the next corner and they are back underneath you.  Do you give them the line in the corner like the rule of thumb states or do you drive them like they drove you and hope they don't take you out?  Mind you, you know you should be faster than them, but are your tires starting to go or did you mess up your handle when you made contact?  There are only a couple laps left...

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Racing Discussion / Re: Tubular metric frames
« on: December 01, 2013, 12:08:46 PM »
Honestly, it is probably too late.  This frame wouldn't be the worst thing to happen to the class, but when you pair it with everything else there is no class any more.  They aren't Street Stocks or Super Stocks or Stock anything.  Everyone's logic is that it is cheaper and easier to buy off the shelf parts.  You might as well just go with Late Models.  Then it is easier for the tech inspectors to enforce the chassis rules.  People can start getting creative with their suspensions without cheating.  They aren't any more expensive and you can demand the pay that goes with "real" racecars.

This class used to be about a group of friends getting together to build a car.  Going out to hunt for parts and doing research to figure out the best combination.  Now you buy all your parts and half the time pay someone else to bolt them together.  You can spend all your time now cleaning the car and treating tires just like the pros.

And I don't get all this talk about setup.  The suspension is supposed to be in the stock location and have the stock dimensions.  So you can change your weight, your ride height, your springs and I guess your shocks.  How often do you change your weight ratios?  If you don't bend anything they shouldn't change from week to week.  I guess you can tweak your springs a bit.  Get your shocks on the dyno.  Oh if anyone wants to borrow it I've got a really good book on shocks (I hope your up on your differential equations).

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Racing Discussion / Re: Tubular metric frames
« on: December 01, 2013, 11:29:51 AM »
I know this class has basically gotten to this point, but what makes it a stock car?  Tube chassis, aftermarket body, aftermarket control arms, racing rearends, racing shocks, racing transmission, etc.  Where is your street stock?  It sure sounds like an underpaid Late Model to me.  Let's make it better.  I've always liked to be different, so I'm going to make an old Mustang.  Since you guys can use a full tube chassis, so can I.  Hey look I've got the front end out of a dirt late model.  At least it has been a few years since someone has won the World on leaf springs.  Do you think I can sneak a 4 link by?  Maybe if I complain you guys have an advantage over me...   Where did I put Barry Wright's phone number??

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Racing Discussion / Re: Tubular metric frames
« on: December 01, 2013, 09:46:01 AM »
I've got a way that will legit save the racers a ton of money.  Change all the tracks over to these 4 classes: Super Late Models, Spec Late Models, Crate Late Models and 4 Cylinder Late Models.  Everyone will be on the same parts so supply will be great, so costs will plummet.  It will be the greatest thing for racing.  If you don't like Late Models, you could do the same thing with Mods.

Hell, you could just have 4 classes of exactly the same cars and just pay them different amounts.  You just choose how much you want to race for.

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Racing Discussion / Re: Tubular metric frames
« on: December 01, 2013, 09:32:42 AM »
We could just make this easier and invite any late models that want to race for a street stock purse.  I suppose to be fair you can put them on the same tires and make them weigh the same.

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Racing Discussion / Re: Tubular metric frames
« on: December 01, 2013, 09:06:11 AM »
Is there any advantage to these frames at all?  Do they weigh the same?  Are they equally rigid?  If they are equal in all ways, why not...  Just another way to tell who wants to work hard in this sport and who wants to get by by throwing around money.

At the same time time there are plenty of cars out there that are no where near in stock location.  It is easy enough to check that stuff.  Skyline was doing it pretty well a few years back.  I have the chassis books with all the measurements if anyone wants to see them.  If not it is just another example of the tracks ruining racing by not enforcing their rules.

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Racing Discussion / Re: Containment seat Question
« on: November 26, 2013, 08:17:25 PM »
Proper R&D and testing costs money and that adds to the price of them, and don't a bunch use carbon fiber, which is still a expensive specialty material.

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Finding the cars is one thing; finding enough drivers to fill 2 classes is another.  Anyone else remember when a full field of cars was over 20 cars?

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Ooops...I thought the Hobby Stocks were on the IMCA tire also.

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What are the differences between the IMCA Stock Cars and Hobby Stocks?  The reason I ask is because I don't believe there are enough RWD V8 stock cars in the area to maintain 2 classes for much longer.  If you got them both on a tire like what the IMCAs use, it seems like the 2 classes could be combined without much issue.  I am not suggesting this be done right away, but if car counts aren't up to snuff in either class it could be done.  This would be especially true if you can rein in the Street Stocks a bit; or, at least, keep them from getting any more out of control.

I think this is a great time to adopt the IMCA rules for these classes, but it is going to take 3-5 years for it to transition to more than a couple tracks.

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Racing Discussion / Re: Donovan McNabb is a jerk!
« on: November 24, 2013, 08:21:27 PM »
Toughness isn't really a physical thing, it is more of a mental thing.

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