EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT

[Jayman]

When is the last time you have thousands of people Paying to watch you fish, hunt, ski????the point is that the owners are making $$ that the racers do not see.. Racers provide entertainment for people.. And should be rewarded for their effort.. Im not saying making tons of $.. but to make it worth it for you and the fans there needs to be money earned..

I am going to have to agree here.. For those of you that Golf, Hunt, Fish, Ski, etc. How much money do you have wrapped up in your equipment? How much did your last outing cost you? Did anyone pay you when you got back based on your performance?  NO!!  Racing is an expensive hobby, be thankful that there are sponsors out there that help out and the racetracks actually pay something back. I can't think of any other hobby that does that.

Some food for thought.  Not all the $$ that a track takes in goes to the promoters pocket as seems to be some peoples thought process here.  Yes, the racers put on the show and are the entertainment, but the promoter/track owner have the cost of building/operating/maintaining the facility that gives all us folks a place to race our wonderful machines.  Last I checked, running a race track, a business that is very dependent on the state of the economy and the weather is an expensive venture with high risk.  I can't blame the peopel who invest their money in race tracks to want to be able to pay their bills and possibly even make a profit (or at least break even).  Now, don't I think increasing and adding entry fees is the best way to get longevity and success out of a track, but we all have to face facts: 1, it is expensive to race in todays world in most classes, 2. it is expensive to operate a race track (remeber, the officials, announcers, flaggers, tech guys, concession workers, ticket takers, etc do not work for free in most cases..... both tracks and racers need to do what they can to make their ends of the sport thrive and survive.

What I would like to see this turn into is can we really look at both sides objectively and figure a formula that works best for both the racers and the 'folks on the other side of the fence'.

Before anyone beats me up for my opnions, please realize I have been a paid official at many tracks for many years (the old Shangri-La/Tioga, Thunder Mountain, Skyline, Afton, and the new Shangri-La 2) as well as being a sponsor for several years on my brother-in-laws cars, as well as being a car owner of some of their cars, as well as being a car owner of my own car at times, and racing my own car at my own expense at times... I think I have a well rounded viewpoint from all sides and can offer good and bad points from each.

I understand Paz's point, just think maybe it came off a little more negative to some than he intended.

[68mustangfb]

Wow, Might have to throw the YELLOW, maybe the RED, or even the BLUE w/stripe flag on this one. Got the BLACK Flag ready if I need it. What do ya think Paz ??       

[qb08]

[raceguy]

Let's throw this flag....the brown flag.

Infamous flagman extraordinaire Jim Burleigh has one like it! 



Flag meaning: "I've has enough of the $hit, the next color you'll see will be darker than this flag"

[raceannouncer]

OK Bob, I understand your explanation.  Since it appears I have the power to do all that you say, I wish I had the power to reverse any damage I may have caused...I won't be seeing any of you @ the Open (I doubt I would be welcome there now!)

I have received A PM from Tim Packman indicating that I am most welcome to the track this weekend.  A big "Thank You" to him and the track for the hospitality! Pay NO attention to swirling rumors that I will be the target in a ball tossing "dunk tank"...(Uh Oh, now I have done it again), posting & not thinking before hit the button!

[raceannouncer]

Wow, Might have to throw the YELLOW, maybe the RED, or even the BLUE w/stripe flag on this one. Got the BLACK Flag ready if I need it. What do ya think Paz ??       

NOT by me; admin has a set of flags, too! But I do like the "brown" flag idea--maybe it could be designed with huge "BS" with the "no" graphic over it!

[Shamrock 3x]

I was thinking of posting on this thread when bbbr basically stole the thoughts right out of my head and put 'em down here.  So another attaboy for the mind reader, bbbr! Now can someone tell me which dictionary I can find EXTEREMELY in?  I've had no luck in my search so far.

[spooker]

5. Its mostly the lack of common rules is the reason why the car counts are so low.

Bingo!  When I was young and foolish, I couldn't afford to race, but did.  Now that I'm older and hopefully wiser, I COULD afford it if there was some consistency in the rules and their enforcement.  Until that happens, I'll stay home.  Tracks throwing the rulebook out the window in an attempt to help their car count is, IMHO, exteremely detrimental in the long run.

Brian

[Nick Austin]

Remember the 80`s show "Valley Girl"?
I believe she frequently used the word "EXTEREMELY"

[GarySS1]

Paz in a "dunk tank", I'll make the 3 hour drive to throw balls at that.. 

[Ratzso]

This and Word Association appear to be the only active threads on RaceNY.

Anyone know if Danica is still competing in NA$CAR sanctioned events?

Thanks,

Ratzso

[raceannouncer]

This and Word Association appear to be the only active threads on RaceNY.

Anyone know if Danica is still competing in NA$CAR sanctioned events?

Thanks,

Ratzso

Depends on your definition of the word "competing"...

[chief57]

i seen her in a music video the other day on gac. i must confess to sitting down and watching.

[billyboy88]

she sure tubs up nice...........

[raceannouncer]

she sure tubs up nice...........

She also seems to have a knack for turning cars into "tubs";(yes, there are a few times when she got caught in someone else's problems but the results are still the same)...just ask some of the crew who works on 'em afterwards!