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Re: EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT
« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2012, 01:33:54 PM »
Paz,

You do a great job, both as MODERATOR of this forum and CONTRIBUTOR to this forum.
Stay right where you are!!   :)

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Re: EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT
« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2012, 01:35:11 PM »
Mike, my statement that you cannot do that job anymore was not an insult, or attack, or shot at you in any way, shape, or form. I apoligize if you took it that way but that was not my intent.

I simply stated, you've spend a long time on that side of the fence and have a skewed view of how the racer thinks about these things.
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Re: EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT
« Reply #47 on: September 11, 2012, 01:39:52 PM »
Mike, my statement that you cannot do that job anymore was not an insult, or attack, or shot at you in any way, shape, or form. I apoligize if you took it that way but that was not my intent.

I simply stated, you've spend a long time on that side of the fence and have a skewed view of how the racer thinks about these things.

I can't deny that...but Daryl, do you also have a health issue as well?  I'm just curious.
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Re: EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT
« Reply #48 on: September 11, 2012, 01:56:13 PM »
Mike,

I thought a couple of your comments yesterday easily could have fallen into the "arrogant" and "flippant" category, and had other parties made them to someone, you may have actually taken them to task on it. 

You are entitled to your opinion on the matter, and free to express it.  But as the old expression goes "sometimes its not what you say, but how you say it".  I think that applies here.

I think in general you tend to be far more closely aligned to track owners and promoters on issues than you are racers.  I think that probably stems from all the time you spent working for various racing organizations and speedways, I'm sure you have a lot of close friends and associates who are still involved with these places and its natural to side with them in these instances. 

As I stated yesterday the expression of differing opinions is fine.  It's healthy.  And it should continue to go on.  The thing I found inexcusable was when you basically told people who didn't agree with the speedway to keep their cars at home in the garage.  The last thing a moderator of a forum whose stated goal is for the betterment of auto racing needs to do is to tell racers to leave their race car at home.  Like KT said yesterday, far too many have gone that route already.  The focus should be on finding solutions to keep racers on the track, and encourage new ones.  And if part of that is done  through using public forums to put pressure on track owners/promoters etc to fix problems like purse structure or rules issues, then so be it.  If the purpose of this forum is going to be to tell racers to either like it or leave it, then this forum might as well cease to exist, because it won't be doing a damn bit of good to furthering the promotion of, or improving the quality of, auto racing in this area. 



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Re: EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT
« Reply #49 on: September 11, 2012, 01:58:02 PM »
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Re: EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT
« Reply #50 on: September 11, 2012, 03:06:33 PM »
Mike, my statement that you cannot do that job anymore was not an insult, or attack, or shot at you in any way, shape, or form. I apoligize if you took it that way but that was not my intent.

I simply stated, you've spend a long time on that side of the fence and have a skewed view of how the racer thinks about these things.

I can't deny that...but Daryl, do you also have a health issue as well?  I'm just curious.

Physical health, not that I am aware of. Mental health... Well I own race cars. That alone should tell you something is wrong with me on a mental level.  ;)


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Re: EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT
« Reply #51 on: September 11, 2012, 03:18:57 PM »
Ron Hills: Thanks for your continuing support

Daryl: We're good.  We can disagree and I respect your opinions, even if we are at polar opposites every once in awhile...
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Re: EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT
« Reply #52 on: September 11, 2012, 03:31:44 PM »
While I may not have any health issues personally, I watched my father fade into a shell of himself and eventually succumb to health issues. It's not something I would ever poke fun at Mike, because it's not funny. Don't mistake me for that type of person.
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Re: EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT
« Reply #53 on: September 11, 2012, 03:49:16 PM »
One of my problems with social media (sites like this, texts or Facebook or Twitter or even classical email), there's no facial expressions, no way (other than caps) to emphasize phrases, such as voice inflections, physical gestures, body language and perhaps other subtleties that exist in face-to-face conversation just can't manifest themselves in "digital medium".  I try to express myself up here as accurately as i can; yet it still has the possibility of having inaccuracies, being misunderstood, things taken out of context, etc)  We are all passionate about racing in our own way for a variety of reasons. Similarly, I can misunderstand and be wrong about what others express up here.  From my perspective, I would rather meet as many of you so we can discuss things in person, rather than arguing and debating in the digital domain!!!
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Re: EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT
« Reply #54 on: September 11, 2012, 03:52:37 PM »
I'm not sure if I agree with you Paz... I'm pretty sure I've made it perfectly clear here on RACENY what an a$$hole I can be!!!  ::)
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Re: EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT
« Reply #55 on: September 11, 2012, 04:42:39 PM »
I'm not sure if I agree with you Paz... I'm pretty sure I've made it perfectly clear here on RACENY what an a$$hole I can be!!!  ::)

Apparently, you and I are on the same boat...and it's sinking FAST!

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Re: EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT
« Reply #56 on: September 11, 2012, 04:46:30 PM »
BBBR, NICE TO MEET YOU AND THANK YOU FOR FINISHING MY THOUGHTS, I COULD NOT HAVE SAID THEM BETTER !!

PAZ, MAYBE YOU DIDN'T GET MY POINT. AS MODERATOR YOU ARE HELD TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD THEN THE

COMMON POSTER, AND I THINK YOU CROSSED THAT LINE BY ENGAGING IN AND CREATING NEGATIVE TREADS.

THE VERY TYPE OF THREADS THAT ANNOY YOU.

EXAMPLE: YOU TOOK EXCEPTION TO THE "WHINERS" IN THE DTRP 4 CYLINDERS BECAUSE THEY COMPLAINED

ABOUT THE US OPEN PURSE. THEIR COMPLAINTS RESULTED IN...

1. DTRP APOLOGIZING FOR MAKING A MISTAKE IN THE PURSE PAYOUT, RESULTING IN A PURSE INCREASE.

2. SAID PURSE INCREASE MIGHT ACTUALLY BRING IN OTHER CARS RESULTING IN A BETTER SHOW.

YOUR ATTITUDE OF "IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT OR CANT AFFORD IT DON'T RACE" WOULD HAVE ACCOMPLISHED

NEITHER. EVERYONE HAS A OPINION, BUT AS A MODERATOR TRYING TO KEEP A LID ON NEGATIVITY,  I FEEL

YOU DROPPED THE BALL.


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Re: EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT
« Reply #57 on: September 11, 2012, 05:00:11 PM »
When is the last time you have thousands of people Paying to watch you fish, hunt, ski????the point is that the owners are making $$ that the racers do not see.. Racers provide entertainment for people.. And should be rewarded for their effort.. Im not saying making tons of $.. but to make it worth it for you and the fans there needs to be money earned..



I am going to have to agree here.. For those of you that Golf, Hunt, Fish, Ski, etc. How much money do you have wrapped up in your equipment? How much did your last outing cost you? Did anyone pay you when you got back based on your performance?  NO!!  Racing is an expensive hobby, be thankful that there are sponsors out there that help out and the racetracks actually pay something back. I can't think of any other hobby that does that.

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Re: EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT
« Reply #58 on: September 11, 2012, 05:12:50 PM »
OK Bob, I understand your explanation.  Since it appears I have the power to do all that you say, I wish I had the power to reverse any damage I may have caused...I won't be seeing any of you @ the Open (I doubt I would be welcome there now!)
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Re: EXTEREMELY SIMPLE CONCEPT
« Reply #59 on: September 11, 2012, 05:23:36 PM »
EVERYONE HAS A OPINION, BUT AS A MODERATOR TRYING TO KEEP A LID ON NEGATIVITY,  I FEEL YOU DROPPED THE BALL.

Perhaps...but Paz has an opinion too and he voiced it.  I don't see where he dropped the ball.  Unless we have to explicitly state 'IMHO' (in my humble opinion),  I interpreted his posts as "in his opinion" and everyone should as well.