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RaceNewYork Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: bywr on April 25, 2012, 01:48:01 PM
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What not to do at a racetrack...Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9lc2eFMbpU#ws)
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Yikes! :o Where was this?
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Real intelligent... A$$holes like that should be banned for the rest of the year...
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Wow....
Where is the guys window net? ::)
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I wanna see what happens after he got out!!!!
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YEE HAAAAAAAA he wreked that mofo!!!!!!!!! bbbbbb TING
Im sorry let me reword that HE WALLED THAT MOFO!!!!!!
"Dirts for growing tomatoes any ways"
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It is LaSalle Speedway in Illinois, the guy in the yellow car got banned I believe
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dats KOOL!
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This one tops that. MONSTER TRUCK!
STUPIDITY on the race track. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRTLk1tKS4c#noexternalembed)
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A classic case of a guy with an extremely poor handling race car, not knowing how to temporarily adjust his own driving style to what the car wants, getting in the way not once, but twice... and then taking out his frustrations on the guy who bumped him twice for not being able to avoid him. If the guy wasn't shut down for a couple of weeks, he certainly should have been. I wish there was another angle of it from the roof.
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Lasalle Speedway 4-21-12 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYNbXMiYy0A#)
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the first time on backstretch just looked liked a racing incident to me and then it appeared the yellow car got squirrely coming outta the corner and the other one took him out instead of lifting. therefore enraging the driver of yellow car. a tap on the bumper woulda seemed fitting, not walling him like that.
if they call that the high banks of lasalle, wonder what they would call woodhull?
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Not sure I could have remained that cool, when I got out.
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Not sure I could have remained that cool, when I got out.
same here....
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Did any of you click the link I posted? That takes it to a whole new level.
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Yeah... Stoopid aint the word..
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They should do a TV series on this. Maybe call it Dirthouse. ;D ;D ;D The guy in the yellow car was taking his sweet time getting out wasn't he?
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oh i'd have helped him out...................
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I wonder what the reactions on here would have been if the second video played first ? I'm thinking most would say it was 'just payback' . It looks to me that the YELLOW car was the only one running the high lane and it worked untill the bottom feeder was losing the lead and decided dumping the guy was his only means of 'defence' I don't think it was too cool to wait for the guy but yellow sure got a chance to 'voice' his displeasure.
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Im all for puttin the bumper to someone, but thats rediculous. The yellow car was so much faster on top i guess he should of stayed there.
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I don't really know if the 96 had time to react. Things happen a lot faster inside the car, and it is easy to speculate sitting in the stands. At best they are both racing incidents.
Regardless of who was at fault for the yellow car being turned around, the way he reacted is ridiculous. That is how people get hurt, and it has no place on the track. He shouldn't be allowed back, using your car as a weapon is a major no-no.
If you want to prove your point, get out of the car and do it.
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I wonder what the reactions on here would have been if the second video played first ? I'm thinking most would say it was 'just payback' . It looks to me that the YELLOW car was the only one running the high lane and it worked untill the bottom feeder was losing the lead and decided dumping the guy was his only means of 'defence' I don't think it was too cool to wait for the guy but yellow sure got a chance to 'voice' his displeasure.
And to me, the yellow car was running on top and switched to defense mode by going to the bottom (where his car did not work). I say he took himself out. In either case, the end result was that he waited for the guy to come back around and then buried his foot in the throttle - using his car as a weapon, and that's just wrong.
This is another point... the yellow car got took around by the white car. It's part of racing. When you are the driver of the yellow car, your first thought is that someone took you out. When you are the driver of the white car, your response is always that he shouldn't have checked up.
I know this... if I was the driver of the white car, I am getting arrested twice. The first time would be for the assault charge I got for giving you a beating for trying to kill me with your car. And the second time is immediately after I post bail, for having me arrested in the first place.
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YELLOW CARs FAULT BOTH TIMES!!!!!!!
BUT DAMN THOSE ARE SOME FAST STREET STOCKS AND ON DIRT NONE THE LESS THEY LOOKED DAMN FAST>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
CRASH BOOM BANG *!#! *&% :o :o
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They are UMP stocks, the rules are almost identical to Woodhull's
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Using your race car as a weapon for retaliation like that should never be condoned and proper, stiff penalties should ensue.
The first time the yellow and white cars touched exiting the corner, I would call that a racing incident and wouldn't pin it on either one. The yellow car was loose coming out and came down the track, at the same time the white car pushes up coming off the corner and the two hit as they go for the same piece of real estate.
The second time, the yellow car does get loose and starts to come down across the front of the white car, however the driver of the white car doesn't lift at all and just drills the guy and turns him. Still a two-way deal, but I would pin that mostly on the white car, as he could have lifted and not just dumped the guy.
What the yellow car did to retaliate is something that should be considered criminal. Using a 3000lb weapon to purposefully wreck and wall someone should get you arested in an instance such as this where it was obviously done on purpose and full throttle. If you are upset with another driver, there are much better ways to handle it. Someone with a temper like that will end up killing someone and does not belong on a track.
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"What the yellow car did to retaliate is something that should be considered criminal."
When they bring legal actions in to racing incidences like this it will ruin racing. Once they start pressing charges for things like this it will get out of hand. I read on lasalle's website that the guy is banned that is penalty enough.
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This type of behavior should not be tolerated in racing, but unfortunately many of those who we race with think this is how you take care of business. :-\
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I know this... if I was the driver of the white car, I am getting arrested twice. The first time would be for the assault charge I got for giving you a beating for trying to kill me with your car. And the second time is immediately after I post bail, for having me arrested in the first place.
Ding....yet another "attaboy"!
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"What the yellow car did to retaliate is something that should be considered criminal."
When they bring legal actions in to racing incidences like this it will ruin racing. Once they start pressing charges for things like this it will get out of hand. I read on lasalle's website that the guy is banned that is penalty enough.
I agree 100%
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If legal actions were put into place, it would certainly make more people think about doing this sort of thing. True, this driver was kicked out for the season, which is a good penalty on behalf of the track, but he could just as well go to another track and do the same sort of thing without really learning a lesson.
Luckily the driver in the white car was not injured after getting slammed full throttle into a concrete wall. Had he been seriously injured, or even worse, you may change your tune about what penalties should be applied. Sorry, tapping a guy with the bumper or turning him is one thing, slamming him at full throttle into the retaining wall coming from the bottom of the track is another.
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There have been recent cases where criminal charges were filed against a retaliating driver, but I also agree that involving law enforcement in racing is a bad idea. This country is over-legislated enough already. The last thing we need in racing is to have the cops start making calls. In order to do that, there has to be strict penalties for severe retaliation like the one seen in that video.
I'm wondering if anyone from New Jersey is reading this. I picked NJ because there is an auto racing division of the State Police there, and I'm wondering what the cops would do in this situation...
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When I was racing in the Carolinas it was very common to see a driver leaving in the backseat of a police car after purposefully wrecking a car on the track or fighting in the pits. I don't know what the full penalty was, but they were spending the night in jail. Mind you the cops were already at the track, so it wasn't a huge deal for them to take someone away.
Personally, I think banning from the track is a good policy. In an ideal world it would be nice if other tracks and series would enforce the bans. Unfortunately, too many tracks ban drivers for personal or mysterious reasons and it would be hard to be consistent on the policy.
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I agree that them ending up on the wall like that is not cool , but what if when the white car spun the yellow he ended uphitting an infield tire and flipped ? Did anyone else notice how far back the 2nd & 3rd place cars were ? Looks to me like they saw THOSE two going at it and saw trouble coming . How about when white spun yellow , looks like he gestured out the window after hed did it then pumped his fist out the window to show off . I'm thinking these guys have a history .And the white car actually was off the gas when the yellow came accross 'HIS' path and then hit the gas to hit him.
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/\ /\ exactly what i thought i was seeing Mike
but im just a fan so i'll sit this 1 out from here :-X
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Fried , DO NOT think that way !!! 'just a fan' ??? , hey I haven't raced since 2003 but I don't think you need to have ever driven to put the pieces together . I mean how about the Keselowski / Edwards highlight reel ? Play that out of chronologic order and you forget who dumped who first , and after a certain amount of time passes they probably can't either . The piont here is white car TOTALLY DISRESPECTED yellow at the end of lap 1 then when yellow passed him white dumped him ... I'm thinking white car and MANY others like him run the bottom because too many of his competitors 'owe him one' .
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The NJ comment is particularly poignant. Certainly there would be discussions near or in a police car. I know of an instance within the last two years where the retalliating driver got to "discuss" it with the on duty patrol officers, but it did not lead to anything. I cannot say if this truly was an aberration or not.