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Re: flaggers at dunn hill 2
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2012, 08:05:05 PM »
I wish everyone who complains about track officials doing a bad job could try to do the job they do--especially tech,the flaggers, the promoters/owners and concessions staff! They all work very hard to do their best to make any facility successful!  Having worked with many of these people, I know for sure many of them are overworked, underpaid and disrespected--hell, some of them are volunteers but one thing they all have in common is an undying passion for the sport and unlike some drivers, they don't whine or complain (as much)...
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Re: flaggers at dunn hill 2
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2012, 08:08:22 PM »
I wish everyone who complains about track officials doing a bad job could try to do the job they do--especially tech,the flaggers, the promoters/owners and concessions staff! They all work very hard to do their best to make any facility successful!  Having worked with many of these people, I know for sure many of them are overworked, underpaid and disrespected--hell, some of them are volunteers but one thing they all have in common is an undying passion for the sport and unlike some drivers, they don't whine or complain (as much)...

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Re: flaggers at dunn hill 2
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2012, 08:10:01 PM »
If there is a driver in a bad spot we will always throw the caution.  There is no lesson to be learned in anyone getting hurt.  This is something blown out of proportion.  Wenever let anyone sit in a dangerous position on the track, so please don't thin like that.  If you have any issues you can e mail me on the track website.

GEEZ, IMAGINE THAT! WHAT A GREAT IDEA!
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Re: flaggers at dunn hill 2
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2012, 08:23:21 PM »
Hey Mr. Paz, I still use your "church of the yellow flag" analogy in my announcing.  I first heard it from you.  Now John Burr is using it also!  I doubt that's the issue that's being discussed here but made me think of it.


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Re: flaggers at dunn hill 2
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2012, 08:28:58 PM »
its funny cause im not whinning or complaing im just saying

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Re: flaggers at dunn hill 2
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2012, 08:42:14 PM »
There is definetly NO Favorites at Dunn Hill.. These guys aren't even from around the area .... Everyone says Maynards and Sites get special treatment.. bullSh*t. there not afraid to DQ anyone... ( dq'd a sites this week) Not saying that the tech guys are always right cuz ive had my disagreements with them but atleast they look at stuff and try to get it somewhat on alevel playing field.and bitchin about the track .. guys running up front aren't complaining to much....they tried changing the track to make the drivers happy.. if some guys dont like it well ya cant please everyone...


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Re: flaggers at dunn hill 2
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2012, 09:59:27 PM »
raceannouncer, Well said!!

I have to say, Favoritism is not a issue at DH2, Drivers have to earn every grain of dirt all the way to the checkard they can get..

As far as the yellow goes, (No names) there are 2 tracks local that really don't throw the yellow unless absolutely necessary, cars coming or not. I don't feel bashing the track over this issue is necessary, what good can come out of it. Every track has issues just like work places, fast food place, grocery store ect. That is why there is bosses/track officals to go to and work it out.

DH2 has really going on in my eyes, nothing is perfect Hope to see you back on the track.

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Re: flaggers at dunn hill 2
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2012, 11:04:58 PM »
Hey Mr. Paz, I still use your "church of the yellow flag" analogy in my announcing.  I first heard it from you.  Now John Burr is using it also!  I doubt that's the issue that's being discussed here but made me think of it.

Thanks for that! I need to get you guys one of my shirts!  All my "deacons" should have one!!!')
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Re: flaggers at dunn hill 2
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2012, 11:07:17 PM »
its funny cause im not whinning or complaing im just saying

It's funny 'cause it sure reads that way...just sayin'
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Re: flaggers at dunn hill 2
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2012, 01:02:19 AM »
DH2 is doing a great job this year. Of all tracks that I have raced it they actually show initiative to fixing a problem as soon as it is addressed.  For example, I am really proud of the track for sending guys to the rear who could not get the concept of pacing the %$&#$%& field during caution laps. That is a simple rule of racing that some guys just could not get.  Kudos DH2.
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Re: flaggers at dunn hill 2
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2012, 06:13:58 AM »
A face to face meeting with the Owner's, and track officials with proof of instances of favoritism, is the way to handle this situation. The drivers meeting would be a great place I think. Most however would rather use Raceny.
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Re: flaggers at dunn hill 2
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2012, 07:28:40 AM »
For the most part i don't see any favoritism. I happen to be the "street stock blocking pit exit"... on my way into the pits i got full bore rear ended sideways down the shoot...sat there a while before any caution was sent. turn 3 flagger just kinda chilled out. overall its not too  bad tho. they could be a little quicker on them. if a caution is needed throw it! single file cars, line them up, if they ain't listenin or dont have scanners...they go to the back. there problem. I just wish we could get a somewhat smooth racing surface. the ruts in the track are unreal  ::)
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Re: flaggers at dunn hill 2
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2012, 07:33:53 AM »
Turn 3 Flaggers are usually out to lunch.
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Re: flaggers at dunn hill 2
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2012, 08:49:56 AM »
Anyone remember way back when, when there used to be a rule in all rules books that stated a driver MUST have a valid state drivers license to compete?  With racers starting out so young, and thus being ready to move up sooner, as well as with the huge increase in DUI's resulting in adults losing their licenses, that rule has disappeared.

I'd like to propose a new one.  It'll never happen, but it WOULD without question make racing a much more enjoyable sport and cut way back on the complaining and unfounded accusations of favoritism.

A)  Head Flagger
B)  Tech Inspector
C)  Promoter
D)  Head of Track Prep

Proposed Rule:  EVERY driver MUST complete a minimum of 3 events performing EACH of the above listed duties.  Duties will be performed for little or no pay.  If there are any complaints about the way said driver performed their duties for an event, that event will not count toward the required 3 events.  Drivers feeling really confident in their abilities MAY at their discretion perform multiple duties per event (hey, why not, many promoters HAVE to because they can't find anyone willing to take the abuse from the racers).

Drivers completing the above requirements will have 2 options.

A)  Get out on the track and go racing.
B)  Invest 10's or even 100's of thousands of dollars to buy or build theirw own track and see how long their impressive average lasts.

Paz beat me to the point, but I'm sure I can count on his vote this year to get this bill pushed through!

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Re: flaggers at dunn hill 2
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2012, 09:11:25 AM »
well said bmr69.. its a new surface it will come around.. DH2 has come along way in a short time.. cant forget its a small bull ring so there is going to be alot of tight racing like it or not.. the pay is very resoectable the staff is good to deal with ( generally). If you have an issue go talk to them they will listen bottom line! Not try and ruin themon the internet.. whats that help??? drive 2 hours to race for less money???? that dont seem like a great idea