Rule Clarifications for Tues Battle of Broom

 Open cars: Roc Rules. 2450 tsp. Holley 4412 is the ONLY acceptable carb. Open American Racer tire (No Late model tires)

 Crates: General DIRT crate rules. 2350 tsp. The ONLY acceptable carbs are Holley 4777, 80777 or 80541.

 ALL BODYWORK MUST follow DIRT rules....no big windows or sail panels. The windows must resemble a DIRT approved window design. You WILL be asked to make bodywork legal BEFORE you are allowed to take the track!!!!!

If there are any questions or concerns you can call Paulie Crambo (tech) @ 570.205.5432

ATTENTION

SPORTSMAN TEAMS
Holley P/N 4412 is the ONLY acceptable 2 bbl carburetor. No Holley HP series, Demon, Willeys, etc.
NO extended tip accelerator pump discharge nozzles allowed. Stock accelerator discharge nozzles only. IF accelerator pump discharge nozzle needs to be removed or spun to bore check carburetor, THEY ARE ILLEGAL. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact a member of the tech staff BEFORE the race. We will gladly check the carburetor. IF in turn we find something BEFORE the race, tech will have LEGAL accelerator pump nozzles for sale (HOLLEY P/N 121-128 IS THE LEGAL DISCHARGE NOZZLE!!!!)

HURRICANE STREET STOCKS
Holley P/N 4412 is the ONLY acceptable 2 bbl carburetor. No Holley HP series, Demon, Willeys, etc.
NO extended tip accelerator pump discharge nozzles allowed. Stock accelerator discharge nozzles only. IF accelerator pump discharge nozzle needs to be removed or spun to bore check carburetor, THEY ARE ILLEGAL. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact a member of the tech staff BEFORE the race. We will gladly check the carburetor. IF in turn we find something BEFORE the race, tech will have LEGAL accelerator pump nozzles for sale (HOLLEY P/N 121-128 IS THE LEGAL DISCHARGE NOZZLE!!!!)

The GM crate option WILL NOT currently be allowed for competition at Thunder Mountain in 2013.


IF you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact Paul Crambo (Tech) @ 570.205.5432

ATTENTION

SPORTSMAN TEAMS
Holley P/N 4412 is the ONLY acceptable 2 bbl carburetor. No Holley HP series, Demon, Willeys, etc.
NO extended tip accelerator pump discharge nozzles allowed. Stock accelerator discharge nozzles only. IF accelerator pump discharge nozzle needs to be removed or spun to bore check carburetor, THEY ARE ILLEGAL. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact a member of the tech staff BEFORE the race. We will gladly check the carburetor. IF in turn we find something BEFORE the race, tech will have LEGAL accelerator pump nozzles for sale (HOLLEY P/N 121-128 IS THE LEGAL DISCHARGE NOZZLE)

HURRICANE STREET STOCKS
Holley P/N 4412 is the ONLY acceptable 2 bbl carburetor. No Holley HP series, Demon, Willeys, etc.
NO extended tip accelerator pump discharge nozzles allowed. Stock accelerator discharge nozzles only. IF accelerator pump discharge nozzle needs to be removed or spun to bore check carburetor, THEY ARE ILLEGAL. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact a member of the tech staff BEFORE the race. We will gladly check the carburetor. IF in turn we find something BEFORE the race, tech will have LEGAL accelerator pump nozzles for sale (HOLLEY PN 121-128 IS THE LEGAL DISCHARGE NOZZLE)
The GM crate option WILL NOT currently be allowed for competition at Thunder Mountain in 2013.


IF you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact Paul Crambo (Tech) @ 570.205.5432

Quote from: sidebite on September 20, 2012, 10:15:41 PM

Crate Sportsman rules???

Weight with Aluminum and/or Steel wheels??
Schrader valved shocks??
HP Carbs??
Rev Box??
Tires??

2375 steel wheels 2450 with alum
schrader valves OK....steel body shocks only
HP carbs OK
Rev box optional
Any 13x92 tire......no late model tires
6.18 Max gear

Any questions call Paul at 570-205-5432

Some points. Last time I went to DH2 with the sport mod, the track was horrible. Track had a horrible surface, and when the brought the grader out, they never cut the 2 foot burm down. They just tried to fill the hole on the bottom, which completely locked down the surface. We finish in the top 5 and had over 600 in repairs without piling the car up (wheel bearings, torsion bars, all the urethane bushings, etc.)   A car caught fire, and it took the fire crew at least 3 minutes to get to the car to extinguish. Fire fighters, more like foundation savers!!!! After that, I really dont feel safe putting my driver out there. I have heard more bad than good about the place, and I want my car in 1 piece for the ROC Wed at Utica Rome. I can bring the crate out, but I would go to Thunder Sun with the crate as I feel that running the crate against the opens is like taking a knife to a gun fight. After the mod teams got blind sided by the entry fee of $50 in June, it put a bad taste in my mouth. Charge $50 for a $1500 to win mod race.....I only paid $20 for 10K to win at the clash at the can. Hell, I just paid $75 to enter the Outlaw 200 and I will get $1000 to start. No brainer there. DH2 screwed the mod teams, and it will now trickle down to the sportsman teams. Like I said, I will go to Thunder Mt. I know what I will be in for, and there won't be any favortism as I hear DH2 is crooked as hell....kinda like a go kart track that no longer exists!!!

Ok, just to clear things up.....

Immediately following the sportsman race, the 6N of Nick Nye presented track officials with the $400 and stated that he wanted the car of Welty checked for legality of his motor. The Welty car was taken into a garage on track property, a representative from each team present, and a teardown was conducted on the Welty car. During the check of the Welty car, it was found that the intake manifold did NOT have factory GM seals on it. Upon further inspection, we had also found that the front and rear of the intake manifold did not have a gasket, but silicone sealing it both front and rear.

With these findings, a meeting was then conducted with myself, Dick Stark, and Mr. Welty. There were 2 areas of concern in the findings that were addressed.
A) The GM crate motor did not have factory seals in place on the intake manifold.
B) The intake manifold was sealed back together using silicone on both the front and rear in place of gaskets.

The GM crate motor is supposed to remain unaltered in the condition that it came in from the factory. Could the engine have been repaired at some point? Mr. Welty stated the he had purchased the engine used, and to his knowledge it had never been repaired. Without the proper documentation from an authorized GM service center, I had no choice but to deem the engine illegal. I did give Mr. Welty the option to go until Mon or Tues if he needed to provide documentation to me. He did decline that option and loaded the car and left the speedway.

Paul Crambo
Technical Inspector
Thunder Mountain Raceway Park

Jeff Crambo has confirmed will be there with the 77 sportsman entry.

I have 2 questions. First, a 28.5x11 is an acceptable lr tire at all tracks anymore. Is it going to be allowed on wed? Secondly, 24 gal max capacity for the fuel cell. Most guys running alky are equipped with a 32 gal fuel cell, which again is legal only if running alky. Just want to clarify as I'm sure that there won't be tires at the track for sale.