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RaceNewYork Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: John_unaman on February 20, 2015, 07:08:03 PM
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Talk about being innocent before you are proven guilty.
Driscoll did not file charges until November, and the Delaware attorney general has not decided if Busch will be charged.
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"The past of how any league might have handled some of this is one thing. It's pretty clear when you see what's happening around the country and in some of the other leagues that our policy will reflect the significance and importance that it should."
Translation: We don't want to take the same public beating that the NFL has in the past year.
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At least Gene will have more time to focus on his tax returns. The ObamaCare stuff is tricky.
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Talk about being innocent before you are proven guilty.
Driscoll did not file charges until November, and the Delaware attorney general has not decided if Busch will be charged.
John: The phrase "innocent before proven guilty" went out with the advent of computer forums, emails, Facebook, Twitter and God knows what else. As technology continues it's forward march, those who are in lockstep would rather trade their freedom(s) in the name of worshiping at the internet altar!
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Talk about being innocent before you are proven guilty.
Driscoll did not file charges until November, and the Delaware attorney general has not decided if Busch will be charged.
John: The phrase "innocent before proven guilty" went out with the advent of computer forums, emails, Facebook, Twitter and God knows what else. As technology continues it's forward march, those who are in lockstep would rather trade their freedom(s) in the name of worshiping at the internet altar!
Innocent until proven guilty is a quaint phrase which the vast majority of people would love to see expunged from the vernacular. Unless, of course, they are the accused. But to blame this all too human trait on the internet is not accurate, have you ever heard the term "lynching"? This mentality has existed since America's earliest days. All the internet has done is thrown a healthy dose of gasoline on the fire.
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Nascar needs to suspend Driscoll also.
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Here'a an interesting take on it from a former police officer...
http://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/kurt-busch-nascar-makes-a-tough-call-was-it-the-right-one-462840 (http://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/kurt-busch-nascar-makes-a-tough-call-was-it-the-right-one-462840)
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Total B S period. It seems to me, what NASCAR is doing to racing, is in line with what Obama is doing to the rest of our country.
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Innocent until proven guilty is a quaint phrase which the vast majority of people would love to see expunged from the vernacular. Unless, of course, they are the accused. But to blame this all too human trait on the internet is not accurate, have you ever heard the term "lynching"? This mentality has existed since America's earliest days. All the internet has done is thrown a healthy dose of gasoline on the fire.
Exactly right!
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NASCAR suspended him after a Family Court commissioner granted a protective order to Driscoll after he found that Busch:
A) strangled her with his left hand and
B) with his right hand on her chin and face, caused her head to forcefully hit his motorhome wall
The evidence was presented and positions argued in a court of law and a judge made a ruling. It's not ok to smack and choke a woman. Busch has a long history of suspensions. NASCAR did the right thing. I hope, and trust that his career is over.
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Hopefully her career is ruined and done too. I think nascrap is the dumbest form of racing worse n worse every yr. So they ruin peoples life for the publicity. Lol someday nascrap will learn pavement is for getting too the races n DIRTS for racin !
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Hopefully her career is ruined and done too. I think nascrap is the dumbest form of racing worse n worse every yr. So they ruin peoples life for the publicity. Lol someday nascrap will learn pavement is for getting too the races n DIRTS for racin !
Her career should be over? She gets choked and her head slammed in the wall and she should have her career ended? You'll need to explain that one to me. While you're at it ask your mom what she thinks. Gimme a break.
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Why did she wait until November to report this? Why did she go into his bus uninvited while he was asleep? Where is the evidence?
There's something fishy about all this, I've seen her videos and tweets...all of which gave the impression she was happy to be the victim. In a jilted lover seeking revenge kinda way. It would be most unsettling if that would be true. Hate to say it, but Kurt was the perfect target and this girl seemed to revel being his arm candy.
I agree, NASCAR jumped the gun on this. Barring new evidence, and Unless he is terrorizing her in the infield race after race, he's the one who might need the restraining order against her. There's a guy in her video that sez if you cross her, she will rip your nuts off. Pretty compelling testimonial. Call me skeptical but that's my $0.02.
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NASCAR found away to park a guy who has stained their precious brand name.
How convenient.
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And yet Travis Kvapil who was actually charged with domestic abuse and arrested, still ran in the truck race.... SMGDH.
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Why did she wait until November to report this? Why did she go into his bus uninvited while he was asleep? Where is the evidence?
There's something fishy about all this, I've seen her videos and tweets...all of which gave the impression she was happy to be the victim. In a jilted lover seeking revenge kinda way. It would be most unsettling if that would be true. Hate to say it, but Kurt was the perfect target and this girl seemed to revel being his arm candy.
I agree, NASCAR jumped the gun on this. Barring new evidence, and Unless he is terrorizing her in the infield race after race, he's the one who might need the restraining order against her. There's a guy in her video that sez if you cross her, she will rip your nuts off. Pretty compelling testimonial. Call me skeptical but that's my $0.02.
Admin,
Why does it matter when she reported it?
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Any guy who hits a girl is a douche... Kurt Busch is a girl beater... Hope he gets his ***** kicked the same way as jimmy did... Fight with boys tough guy!!!
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The name Jeremy Mayfield comes to mind. If you don't conform to the NASCRAP standard, you can't go out & play with the boys.
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Amen Willie to that I was thinking same thing anything for publicity n higher ratings no matter who's life it f....in ruins!
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Admin,
Why does it matter when she reported it?
Physical evidence, there isn't any. Not 5 or 6 weeks later. All that's left is an accusation and a public smear campaign. It would have added credibility to her claims if she had filed a complaint as soon as possible after the alleged assault, but for what ever reason she didn't. Maybe she refused to accept he was dumping her....maybe she was scared...maybe ad nausem.
An order of protection is not a conviction, and an accusation is just an accusation. I don't know what happened but I'm willing to adhere to innocence until proven guilty. He may be a jackass on track but that doesn't mean he's automatically a domestic abuser. Not yet, at least.
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IMHO, Both Busch Brothers have incurred wrath by many "traditional" NASCAR fans and self proclaimed experts, despite the fact that KuBu is a past Cup champion, and "Shrub" has a boatload of victories(29 in Cup and in the in the other two lesser series--70 in the NXS series with one championship in '09 and 70 total wins (and easily trouncing the total amount of victories once held by Mark Martin, who many thought Martin's winning record in the Series would never be topped)--and don't forget the 42 he has in the NCWTS, for a total amount of 154 victories spread NASCAR's 3 top series. He was the first driver to sweep in all three series at most notably at Bristol, generally considered to be the toughest physically for a driver on the schedule(s)--in addition, Kyle has completed 6 weekend sweeps in his career. The ONLY thing that's missing is a Cup Championship. His numbers are phenomenal and yet gets very little respect, mostly because of his brash attitude--which is somewhat ironic, since many folks grew tired of the more "vanilla" personality of Jimmie Johnson and complained loudly about it while he was racking up his championships. Yes, both Bush brothers are polarizing figures in the sport--either you love 'em or hate 'em. but "black hat" drivers in NASCAR over recent years have been sorely absent in Cup. I particularly like Kyle who backs up his abrasive attitude by winning races; after all, isn't that's what it's all about? You don't have to like KyBu but you sure gotta respect him for his many racing accomplishments but his brother is now a whole 'nother story ...again, it's just my long-winded opinion!
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Hopefully her career is ruined and done too. I think nascrap is the dumbest form of racing worse n worse every yr. So they ruin peoples life for the publicity. Lol someday nascrap will learn pavement is for getting too the races n DIRTS for racin !
A thread about a driver getting suspended from charge(s) of domestic abuse and you're using it to triumph dirt racing over asphalt racing?
Amazing. ???
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In dirt racing we don't look for publicity we look for dust flying whether its off a pair of boots or a pair of american racers! Nascrap!
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IMHO, Both Busch Brothers have incurred wrath by many "traditional" NASCAR fans and self proclaimed experts, despite the fact that KuBu is a past Cup champion, and "Shrub" has a boatload of victories(29 in Cup and in the in the other two lesser series--70 in the NXS series with one championship in '09 and 70 total wins (and easily trouncing the total amount of victories once held by Mark Martin, who many thought Martin's winning record in the Series would never be topped)--and don't forget the 42 he has in the NCWTS, for a total amount of 154 victories spread NASCAR's 3 top series. He was the first driver to sweep in all three series at most notably at Bristol, generally considered to be the toughest physically for a driver on the schedule(s)--in addition, Kyle has completed 6 weekend sweeps in his career. The ONLY thing that's missing is a Cup Championship. His numbers are phenomenal and yet gets very little respect, mostly because of his brash attitude--which is somewhat ironic, since many folks grew tired of the more "vanilla" personality of Jimmie Johnson and complained loudly about it while he was racking up his championships. Yes, both Bush brothers are polarizing figures in the sport--either you love 'em or hate 'em. but "black hat" drivers in NASCAR over recent years have been sorely absent in Cup. I particularly like Kyle who backs up his abrasive attitude by winning races; after all, isn't that's what it's all about? You don't have to like KyBu but you sure gotta respect him for his many racing accomplishments but his brother is now a whole 'nother story ...again, it's just my long-winded opinion!
If the Bush Brothers last name was Earnhardt, they would be the most popular drivers in NASCAR.
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I don't see Jr getting in too much trouble. Other then his money, he dresses and acts like the rest of us when he is home. As for Kurt Busch, I guess you don't need any evidence to convict or suspend. If he did it then ok, BUT I think she is a little "Nutzi Faggan" herself. I guess any woman who is scorned now can say so and so choked me 6 months ago, guess what, if it's you, your marked for ever.
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A thread about a driver getting suspended from charge(s) of domestic abuse and you're using it to triumph dirt racing over asphalt racing?
Amazing. ???
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What are the official charges?
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"I guess any woman who is scorned now can say so and so choked me 6 months ago, guess what, if it's you, your marked for ever."
Spot on Gomer......these type reactions to accusations seem to be on a sudden uprise.....not good!! Society needs to revert back to letting the system work.....FB and Twitter trials need to stop!!
Bb
Robert I. Morronson
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If the Bush Brothers last name was Earnhardt, they would be the most popular drivers in NASCAR.
AMEN,brother!
To me, the much discussed "domestic abuse" topic is today's legal "flavor of the month" for all of sports, not just in NASCAR. Jeremy Mayfield's problem was "drugs" when it was the topic most discussed by the general public at the time. IMHO, for both cases, media has just been driving the bus!
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Earnhardt is a class act win lose or crash can't say that at all about the busch brothers.
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hey goggles, don't be such a goofball, you are totally wrong on this one, where is the proof ? any pictures of evidence to back up her accusation ? 1st item she was supposedly assaulted 2 months earlier but didn't say any thing about it why not ??, perhaps it didn't pay enough "blackmail" to turn him in at the time, 2nd item Kurt has not been arrested on any thing as of last night, Nascrap jumped the accusation gun when they banashed him from racing , as far I know he is still innocent until proven guilty, the commissioner or "whatever their title is" assumed that Kurt must have done it based on previous history.....and awarded her an "order of protection" now his reputation as a driver has cost him a way to earn a living and it may be a permanent loss. I had read where she say's she is a "hit person" for the government, so now I wonder who needs the order of protection, I had an "order of protection" issued to me because I was being threatened by a female, the judge asked me why I needed it and I told him I'll knock her out with one punch BUT I didn't want to take that route so he said OK and gave me a 6 month order of protection, The female finally got into trouble and ended up in jail. this is a true story that happened in 1982. Now what happens if by some chance he is found innocent, do we just tell him to call goggles up and you will fix it ? I don't think so .... If I had a brother he would look like ............ OR the police acted stupitly...... last thing we are still Americans living in America and we have something called the justice system.
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LOL. The Family Court Commissioner used the terminology "more likely than not" to describe this great decision. For an order of protection..., NOT to judge a mans guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
Come on man, you can't be that obstinate...just admit you hate Kurt Busch and are willing to accept any Kangaroo Court decree regardless of evidence as long as it damages Kurt's career and reputation. Just like Ms. Driscoll. She's already doing the news circuit extolling the virtues of being a victim, and being 'the' victims advocate.
What if she's lying? How do you know she is not? Please explain.
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He's just upset that most of us here don't subscribe to the lynch mob mentality like he (and a majority of the general public) does.
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What happened to NASCAR? Guilty in NASCAR before he is even guilty in court! Ruin a mans life I hope he is proven not guilty how will that look for nascrap ratings?
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Domestic violence should never be tolerated, BUT every now and then there is that "one" woman who needs to be knocked on her a$$. Maybe Lucky Kurt found her. I wonder if Nascar will give him a TV apology if they find no evidence.
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As a female, I have a question.
At what point, no matter how far someone pushes those buttons (and I would know all about having buttons pushed on internet race forums), is okay for violence of any kind? What I fail to see, in this instance, is violence against Patricia Driscoll. Frankly, unless you show me video footage of Kurt choking her and slamming her head against the wall (which could vey well have been part of rough sex), I think he's getting the shaft.
Not sure what has Googley-poo's thongs in a bunch, but SHE went to his trailer after he told her they were done. SHE instigated the argument. At that point, she becomes the master of her own fate, and our society is now so pasturized that any incident of this nature is always the man's fault. I'd just like to applaud the script writers for World Wrestling Entertainment who have apparently taken over the public relations for NASCAR. Somewhere, Big Bill France is probably shaking his head in shame at what's become of his baby.
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SHE went to his trailer after he told her they were done. SHE instigated the argument. At that point, she becomes the master of her own fate, and our society is now so pasturized that any incident of this nature is always the man's fault.
Excellent point. My question remains...how do we know this woman is telling the truth? Apparently she was just acting in the videos. Here's some excerpts from the Sporting News:
The video, which was being widely shared on social media and linked to in numerous stories, was pulled from YouTube on Friday due to a copyright claim by Driscoll.
Called "Pocket Commando," the video was created as a pitch for Driscoll to be part of a reality TV show. It depicts her as a gun-loving, partying, don’t-mess-with-me woman.
“I am a mom, a businesswoman, a patriot, a socialite, and a whole lot of attitude," Driscoll, the CEO of a defense surveillance and equipment company, says in the video. "I have the reputation for not being the nicest person in the world, and I’ve earned it. .. I don’t care if people hate me for who I am or what I do because I’m not going to change.”
One of Driscoll’s employees at the Armed Forces Foundation, where she is president, calls her “one scary b----” and says, “You don't want to mess with Patricia. ... If you cross her, she’ll grab you by the nuts and twist them and tear them right off.”
Patricia Driscoll (YouTube Photo)
The video was entered as evidence by Busch during a Delaware Family Court hearing, where Driscoll is seeking a no-contact order against Busch, whom she alleges smashed her head three times against a motorhome wall Sept. 26 at Dover International Speedway.
The 2004 Cup champion has denied the allegations and claims that Driscoll is out to ruin him. He said in testimony this week that he fears Driscoll, calling her a “trained assassin.”
The video shows Driscoll shooting military-style weapons and participating in commando-style training.
“I like to shoot as much as I like to dance and have sex,” she says in the video.
Driscoll testified during the court hearing that the video was a publicity video for a potential reality TV show and was taken out of context. The video appears to be about five years old with footage from a 2010 race weekend at Talladega.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2015-01-15/patricia-driscoll-video-kurt-busch-ex-girlfriend-trained-assassin-domestic-abuse-allegation-investigation (http://www.sportingnews.com/nascar/story/2015-01-15/patricia-driscoll-video-kurt-busch-ex-girlfriend-trained-assassin-domestic-abuse-allegation-investigation)
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There you have it Goggles; The most important FACT of the case pointed out to you by a woman (no offense Sunny, just proves how obvious it is). They broke up. She went to see him uninvited. He didnt want here there. She is Po'ed about it cause her meal ticket was pulled. I see nothing here that ruins a mans life or turns her into a super hero. Besides, if you stood her and Kurt toe-to-toe with the understanding its a real fight, my money would be on her every time.
Does make you wonder though... NASCRAP encourages on track contact and pit road altercations. Are they, at least partially, responsible for promoting agressive behavior of their drivers?
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I think that she is totally destroying a man she once professed to care deeply for (Hell hath no fury and all...). I think the judge that granted her order of protection needs to have his head examnined as well. Didn't Kurt put a restraining order on her prior to this instance, and she ignored it when she entered his motor home?
I, in no way, advocate abstract violence towards men, women, children, animals, et al.. But this biotch is nuts, and when it's all said and done, I hope Kurt is vindicated for his own sake.
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I would add....how do we know if Kurt's ontrack behavior (which IS apparently admissible in court) isn't being taken out of context? Like Kurt's on this WWE reality show called NASCAR and it too is out of context. Makes you wonder how her evidence is out of context...and his is supposably in context?
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According to Kurt, she came into his motorhome while he was sleeping. Does that mean she still had a key? Also, the driver's lot is protected, she got past security. Does that mean she still had permission to be there?
I am rather certain that I am not the only one who is on this site that has experienced a difficult end to a relationship. However, under no circumstances, no matter how difficult she is being, no matter how unfair the rulings have been, no matter how crazy she is, are you allowed to lay hands on her. That is just as true for a peon like me as it is for a superstar driver like Kurt Busch (he acknowledged that he did touch her). Those are the rules. And this case was ruled on by a duly authorized authority (whether he was a judge or not is not relevant). So, NASCAR's hands really are tied. The process is playing out, a legal ruling was made. Chevrolet, in an effort to distance itself from a possible perpetrator of domestic violence cut ties with him. That means some of the money is drying up. Kurt Busch is as responsible as anyone else for how this is working out. He made an admission to touching her, he came up with a really off the wall story about her. The Commissioner had to make a decision. He said in his ruling that her story was much more credible than his, so he ruled the way he did.
I am not a fan of Brian France. But, given the culture we live in, he really had to act the way he did.
Is she a nut case out to ruin a man? Maybe. But he sealed his own fate by reacting physically.
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All of this goes away as soon when the right dollar amount is calculated, offered and paid out!!!
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I ask you this, Paul - if someone breaks into your home, wakes you from a sound sleep, and YOU react physically - peon or not - should you face consequences?
Key or not, she KNEW she did wrong. And NONE of us know for sure what the meaning of "put his hands on her physically" means. Did he grasp her arm to escort her a$$ out of his bus, and she went all "pocket commando" on him? Fighting and kicking and screaming as women are wont to do, and IF she instigated that physical altercation, SHE is the one to blame.
I get that no man is ever supposed to hit a woman. We being the weaker sex and all. But I will tell you that if she went all "Mrs. Smith" on the Outlaw, I can't blame him for fighting back. Guess we're gonna hafta agree to disagree.
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Sunny your so hot!!!! If you ever see me in the pits will you please grab me like Danica did Denny ?
I'd love to take some air off your spoiler. ;D ;D ;D ;)
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"I'd love to take some air off your spoiler. ;D ;D ;D ;)"
Thanks for that picture, UM. Now that's funny, right there!
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I don't know if this will clear anything up or make things murkier...
http://courts.delaware.gov/help/pfa/ (http://courts.delaware.gov/help/pfa/)
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I'm hot because I CAN understand normal thinking? And, no, I will not grab you like Danicrash grabbed Denny. Those two looked like two drag queens fighting for a purse.
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Paul: since she was his girlfriend (at the time), I have no doubt that she had the correct credentials to be anywhere. But now there are some unanswered questions; like--the circuit races at Dover only twice a year? Since she obtained it through Delaware's legal system, how can it be valid anywhere else? Plus, in recent pre-race coverage, Kurt has appeared to have moved on with yet another woman; He's already been divorced once and given his current situation, why would ANY female want to be around him at all? If the new one claims abuse, it produces a two-headed monster. In my mind, she is exercising poor judgement by wanting to be with him. Likewise, he is also displaying further bad choices by having a new "girlfriend"in his life. It would seem to me it would be much better for him to stay away from the "fairer" sex, at least for now! Will NASCAR now require a plan similar to the hoops drivers are required to jump through after drug usage was found? It will be interesting to see what they now come up with for situations like this. OR, will she be granted access to future races? This has created a HUGE issue for both him and NASCAR!!!
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can you say "free publicity"? nascar is loving every minute of this and making its decisions with its wallet, not its concience.
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You all should be blaming Ray Rice. Nascar has been trying for years to have that kind of popularity. Since the NFL bungled that whole deal Nascar wasn't about to have any resemblance to how they handled it. Boot him right away and let the cards fall where they may. Reguardless they acted quickly and swiftly.
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You all should be blaming Ray Rice. Nascar has been trying for years to have that kind of popularity. Since the NFL bungled that whole deal Nascar wasn't about to have any resemblance to how they handled it. Boot him right away and let the cards fall where they may. Reguardless they acted quickly and swiftly.
You mean, blame the NFL for botching it...right? Equating Kurt Busch with Ray Rice? Nice vandalism here...wouldn't it be nice to find out who wrote that on the window? Hmmm...gentlemen, start your conspiracy theories!
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SO, if anyone locally is currently racing with the #41 on their car--BEWARE!!!(this shouldn't pertain to Tim or Kevin Lewis, though)!
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Marco and Kurt were teammates for the Indy 500 last year:
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I feel like my earlier remarks need some clarification. I have no idea who is guilty or who is innocent in this whole affair. All I do know, based on my own experience (I won't bore you with the details...who cares?) the system played out the only way it could. His waffling (first, "I never touched her", then, "well, yeah, I cupped her face...", finally, "it is possible her head might have contacted the wall when I cupped her face") is what gave the Commissioner no choice but to issue the restraining order. Once that was issued, NASCAR had no choice but to suspend. That's all.
I know it flies in the face of what we believe is true and right, but his smart play would have been to leave the motorhome when she arrived (that, by the way, is what I did). I know, it belongs to him, but the legal system has different requirements than real people. The question they would ask, rather than "Who bought it?" would be "Has she ever spent a night here?" If the answer is yes, in the eyes of the legal system, she has a right to be there. I know how bizarre that sounds, but that is the reality. Had he left, or, at the very least, stuck to his original, "I never touched her", this could have gone differently. But it HAS to be played out according to the rules of the system.
Sunny, as an aside, when my situation occurred, many of my friends were quick to say things like, "I know what I would have done, I would have kicked her a$$ out the door." But when you have something to lose (I work for a church, Kurt Busch's entire livelihood is driven by keeping the sponsor happy), you need to realize that you really can react however you want to. But, when you do, there might be consequences to pay. That's why you involve lawyers, because they should know how to navigate the system.
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WOMEN!
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I found this funny....in the order of protection against Kurt, he has to stay at a minimum 100 yards away from her. EXCEPT at NASCAR races. ;D
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I found this funny....in the order of protection against Kurt, he has to stay at a minimum 100 yards away from her. EXCEPT at NASCAR races. ;D
HUH??? (doh)
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I totally agree with you guys.
Sincerely,
O.J.
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Paul, that was probably the best way to describe a situation like this.
I have no dog in this fight, and I am by no means a Kurt fan (I believe referring to him as Ernie the Keebler Elf's ba$tard child gives that away), I just think NSCAR did not do their due diligence. Similar situation with Travis Kvapil, and he's still a NASCAR driver. :shrug: (PS: I'm surprised Goggles hasn't brought up the 'rumors' of Tony Stewart not being exactly chivalrous toward the opposite sex, either.)
So, anyhooo... Here we go with the WWE PR team for NASCAR. On to Hotlanta, gentlemen, and congratulations to NY boy Regan Smith and his ife on the birth of their son Rhett.
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I agree. When my woman get's out of line, I turn her into a Pez dispenser.
Sincerely,
O.J.
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I agree. When my woman get's out of line, I turn her into a Pez dispenser.
Sincerely,
O.J.
Be reminded that OJ was found not guilty of murder, but was found liable in a civil suit brought by the families of the deceased. He also plead "no contest" to spousal abuse in 1989. Evidence doesn't lie.
I suspect Ms. Driscoll would prefer to avoid a scandalous criminal trial (for obvious reasons such as no evidence or criminal charges), but would certainly go for the civil suit because she could get some $$$. Fast. If Kurt has any...LOL.
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Gotta know how to treat a lady right!
The Juice
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You know, Goggles...you're not trying hard enough. Wouldn't this lad better serve your point? You could sign all your posts with his name...after all it is more specific to the sport. And you could change your picture to his. Win win!
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The incident happened at 6:50 p.m. ET on Tuesday, and Travis Kvapil was booked into Iredell County jail at 8:35 p.m., according to the police report. An MPD news release said it received a 911 call regarding an assault and arrested Kvapil after the dispute with his wife.
Less than two hours to arrest. Makes you wonder why she didn't wait 4 or 5 weeks, doesn't it?
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kurt call Adrian
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/02/26/adrian-peterson-suspension-overturned-minnesota-vikings?xid=aol_home&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl12%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D619628 (http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/02/26/adrian-peterson-suspension-overturned-minnesota-vikings?xid=aol_home&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl12%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D619628)
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You know, Goggles...you're not trying hard enough. Wouldn't this lad better serve your point? You could sign all your posts with his name...after all it is more specific to the sport. And you could change your picture to his. Win win!
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The incident happened at 6:50 p.m. ET on Tuesday, and Travis Kvapil was booked into Iredell County jail at 8:35 p.m., according to the police report. An MPD news release said it received a 911 call regarding an assault and arrested Kvapil after the dispute with his wife.
Less than two hours to arrest. Makes you wonder why she didn't wait 4 or 5 weeks, doesn't it?
Actually, no it doesn't. I've got two girls 14 and 16. If they came to me 5, 10, 15, 250 weeks after getting their head smashed into the wall and choked, I'd have them pursue all legal avenues. I can't really get my head around the mentality here. It's actually very disturbing.
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Kurt don't call Chris.
http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2015/02/26/ex-louisville-chris-jones-charged-rape-sodomy?xid=aol_home&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl37%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D619471 (http://www.si.com/college-basketball/2015/02/26/ex-louisville-chris-jones-charged-rape-sodomy?xid=aol_home&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl37%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D619471)
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I'm hot because I CAN understand normal thinking? And, no, I will not grab you like Danicrash grabbed Denny. Those two looked like two drag queens fighting for a purse.
Can Understand Normal Thinking is still...... :o oh never mind.
Two drag queens would be Shirley Muldowney and Shelly Anderson wouldn't it?
Oh.. those kind of queens..ooops my bad. ::)
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One of the aforementioned would be a "Queen" of her sport, yes.
And, yes, it still spells out the same. ;) See you next Tuesday, UM! Lol!
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“The Delaware Department of Justice has carefully reviewed the complaint made of an alleged act of domestic violence involving Kurt Busch in Dover on Sept. 26, 2014, which was reported to the Dover Police Department on Nov. 5, 2014, and investigated. After a thorough consideration of all of the available information about the case, it is determined that the admissible evidence and available witnesses would likely be insufficient to meet the burden of establishing beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Busch committed a crime during the Sept. 26 incident. Likelihood of meeting that high burden of proof is the standard for prosecutors in bringing a case. For this reason, the Department of Justice will not pursue criminal charges in this case.”
Boom.
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Give him his job back.
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AMEN
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Give him his job, his life, his credibility - all of it - back.
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A lot of people, including the Nascar head honchos in this case, forget that a basic principle of American justice is "innocent until proven guilty" in a court of law. It seems that in this case, Nascar was only concerned with the court of public opinion. They owe Kurt Busch a formal public apology at the very least.
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I just read that Ms. Driscoll refrained from reporting the alleged assault due to the fact she was involved in a custody dispute with her child's father. It's assumed that any publicity from her domestic abuse claims could have jeopardized her ability to seek custody of her child, perhaps in the judges eyes. What a mess...exposing her child to an alleged domestic abuser and hiding it from a custody hearing...I wonder if they'll reopen that case?
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Yeah! Give him his job back! They didn't find me guilty either!
Sincerely,
The Juice
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White Bronco races! Remove 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gear. Let them go at it! Nice avatar itchypav! I see OJ!
Sincerely,
Al Michaels
http://youtu.be/3cuf8YlL3H8 (http://youtu.be/3cuf8YlL3H8)
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Thank you Goggles for noticing. Dang I was doing well for my 13 years stint. Anyway are you looking for any bones for your dog?