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Title: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: justmark on November 25, 2014, 07:00:01 PM
Gordon Reger confirmed to Larry Ott that Bill Catania's offer to buy Lancaster Speedway was denied. Reger is seeking a promoter for the 2015 season at the track. There will be an article in tomorrow's Buffalo News.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Welshans32 on November 25, 2014, 07:29:56 PM
WTF? Maybe he'll buy Perry.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Steviestiches on November 25, 2014, 07:31:38 PM
Sh!t. What now?
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: first on November 25, 2014, 07:41:01 PM
Well that sucks. I'm sure a business man and knowledgable racing man like bill made a reasonable offer. So the owner is being greedy. But maybe they think it's better to be closed than to take a reasonable offer. Bad idea. I don't know what the price was but if it's close maybe Lake Erie is a good plan.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: racerbob10 on November 25, 2014, 09:08:43 PM
Well........there is a big surprise......not!
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: justmark on November 25, 2014, 11:55:02 PM
http://www.buffalonews.com/article/20141125/SPORTS/141129282 (http://www.buffalonews.com/article/20141125/SPORTS/141129282)
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Chargincharlie on November 26, 2014, 03:43:15 AM
That stinks the open was such a positive race.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: crankyhick on November 26, 2014, 05:22:10 AM
You can put lipstick on a pig, but, you still have a pig....Repaving & Grandstand Improvements?....Sounds like the "same old, same old" again for 2015....But I hope I'm wrong....And yes; there are parties who are interested in operating the place for next season.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: smallguy on November 26, 2014, 06:39:45 AM
Add me in as one of the interested parties...anybody got contact info for Gordon, would like to take a meeting...
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: sharpy on November 26, 2014, 06:59:17 AM
Maybe he should contact George at Shang II for a real facility, He might be ready to deal
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Tigerpaw333 on November 26, 2014, 10:31:41 AM
May have to do with cost with lake Erie speedway going for around the same price and not any really improvement needed doesn't make sense to buy Lancaster.

As far as promoters go need to get in contact with the person who runs ransomville speedway.good car count and always pack in the stands.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: chit pants on November 26, 2014, 12:05:15 PM
lol.. does this news surprise anybody? The place is a sh!thole and he wasn't going to buy it just to lose money. The value is in the property not the delapitated garbage that sits on it.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: retired hamburger on November 26, 2014, 05:28:46 PM
Anyone  want to by a ticket stub from the U.S. Open? It's a collector piece now. That's what I figured. I had heard that Bill had estimated the cost to update the facility.Particularly the lights & pavement to resurface the track. He did what any business man would do. He presented that to Gordie baby. Now after these last few years any promoter was damned if he did or it he didn't. If he were to make a show of it, up goes the rent. If he didn't that's where you are today. Sad day for auto racing in western NY. Refer is a land speculator & he own many places around the country & he's not interested in racing so as did many famous places like Langhorne.Shopping Mall maybe? I'm already figuring on Perry when time & the rock tour races  around NY. See ya there. Gordo baby I know a very rich person and he has always said, "ya got to spend money to make money" so get off your wallet you tight asz.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: uticamike on November 26, 2014, 10:02:00 PM
MR Szmal. outline briefly what you would envision for the place.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: racerbob10 on November 27, 2014, 03:20:01 PM
.......that plan would start with a bulldozer....and a big bag of cash. That is a $450000 piece of industrial property that is not that desirable cause its a bed of rock down about 18 to 24 inches....hard to build anything on....you guys didn't really think Catainia was buying it did you? He saw a big bag of money called the 25 year old US Open and capitalized on fans emotions about the track. That's about it..makes no sense on paper as a business deal at all...
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: uticamike on November 27, 2014, 04:09:37 PM
Are you calling Catania a fraud, a huckster?   He came back three times to get the Modified portion of the Open in.

He has purchased other tracks so what you write here is a little harsh I think.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: racerbob10 on November 27, 2014, 06:22:41 PM
I believe you will find he leased another track and does not own one.....or is in the running to own one.....not really harsh..
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: racerbob10 on November 27, 2014, 06:41:24 PM
.......and the mod guys have not been paid yet.....
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: jeff page on November 27, 2014, 07:33:13 PM
Pretty sure he has made an offer for SL-2 .
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: uticamike on November 27, 2014, 08:07:05 PM
Pretty sure he has made an offer for SL-2 .

Source?
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Rocket88 on November 27, 2014, 09:05:31 PM
Tough to build anything there with a high pressure gas line right behind the grandstand, that requires a right of way.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: kozmo on November 28, 2014, 12:09:29 AM
More shangrila 2 rumors that ain't true
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Beersy26 on November 28, 2014, 09:03:38 AM
well I sure would like to know the deal ending details.  Bill made one heck of an effort to get the open finished, he seemed genuinely excited about purchasing the track, and the turnout of fans and drivers seemed to support the "test".  It was reported that he made an offer so what happened?   Did he make a lowball offer that Reger could not accept or is Reger being unrealistic on what he wants?   Is the property worth more for something other than refurbishing the speedway?  I was already making plans to keep sat. nights open next summer.  I know it really doesn't matter but sure would like to know what really happened.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Gomerpyle on November 28, 2014, 12:08:41 PM
No real offer for SL2 has been brought to George as of yet.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: chit pants on November 28, 2014, 06:47:01 PM
I believe you will find he leased another track and does not own one.....or is in the running to own one.....not really harsh..

He purchased Stateline Speedway which is a money maker with full stands and 200 cars in the pits every Sat night. I don't believe he's tried pulling a fast one on anybody. He took what he believed was fair value to the table and it was turned down which is what most people figured except for the dreamers on here.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: kozmo on November 29, 2014, 10:40:35 AM
Gomer does george want to sell?
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: hurricane on November 29, 2014, 11:34:07 AM
Heard Stateline was not closed in stone still yet because of the back taxes.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Gomerpyle on November 29, 2014, 01:45:09 PM
Kosmo, I'm sure if the money is right.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: 1adriver on November 29, 2014, 08:41:01 PM
I believe you will find he leased another track and does not own one.....or is in the running to own one.....not really harsh..

He purchased Stateline Speedway which is a money maker with full stands and 200 cars in the pits every Sat night. I don't believe he's tried pulling a fast one on anybody. He took what he believed was fair value to the table and it was turned down which is what most people figured except for the dreamers on here. He has not purchased stateline speedway as of yet, claimed to be buying eriez speedway and no action there. maybe he found a new hobby?
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Groundpounder on November 29, 2014, 09:51:16 PM
He sure put a lot of time and money into Stateline this year for someone who doesn't own it.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Zoey on November 30, 2014, 08:53:03 AM
Does it matter? Big Bill can do whatever he wants with his money...He doesn't have to spend it how you want....This isn't the mid 90's and before where the place was something to buy....Why overpay for a dump expecially when asphalt is DEAD....
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: justmark on November 30, 2014, 10:01:16 AM
 Bill has inquired about the Lake Erie Speedway sale; the Eriez & Stateline deals aren't done according to an article in the Erie Times-News today.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Chriszak7 on November 30, 2014, 10:19:43 AM
http://mobile.goerie.com/html5/sectionfront/content/?content=31864709&type=ETN&story=Lake+Erie+Speedway+for+sale%3B+Eriez+%26amp%3B+Stateline+deals+still+not+done (http://mobile.goerie.com/html5/sectionfront/content/?content=31864709&type=ETN&story=Lake+Erie+Speedway+for+sale%3B+Eriez+%26amp%3B+Stateline+deals+still+not+done)
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: uticamike on November 30, 2014, 10:43:38 AM
What was that sound Pac-Man used to make when he got "killed" in the old video game.

That's what's playing in my head.  :-\

https://www.google.com/search?q=Pac-man&oq=Pac-man&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3194j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8# (https://www.google.com/search?q=Pac-man&oq=Pac-man&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.3194j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8#)
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Beersy26 on November 30, 2014, 10:52:38 AM
So much for tweeting@wesavetracks
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: chasinsquirrels on November 30, 2014, 09:09:26 PM
I don't think he owns Stateline eather. 
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: leadfoot4 on December 01, 2014, 07:36:07 AM
Quote from the 'goerie.com' article:

"The property at LES has been listed with Howard Hanna Real Estate Services for $1.75 million. Prischak said an asking price for the complete facility hasn't been determined."

Read that carefully..... So, what does a buyer get, for $1.75 million? The track, the land around it, or both?? At 1.75 million dollars, yes the facility would be a steal. But the way that statement is worded, it appears there's more to it.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: cwm on December 01, 2014, 08:18:17 PM
  Leadfoot, I wondered the same thing. It would be hard to take the racing surface with them so maybe for that money you don't get the bleechers, fence or Kaczay.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: smallguy on December 02, 2014, 10:59:54 AM
Check Dave Buchanan's FB page for an update, gang...
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Hollandracer83 on December 02, 2014, 11:49:23 AM
why dont you just tell us what was posted smallguy
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Pops6@25 on December 02, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
Since the cat is out of the bag, and the AARN article has it wrong.... Melissa McGowan has been hired as General Manager of Lancaster Speedway. Melissa worked on the US Open promotion and served as a great leader and organizer. During the Open she was blown away by everyone's dedication and love of the speedway, which is why she is taking on this position. After getting to know the track and the people involved with it she came to love it as well and she will be a valuable asset in the next chapter in the history of Lancaster Speedway.

 There will be an official statement later this week with some details. Please be patient if all of your questions are not answered right away, there is a lot of work to be done. Just be reassured that the track will be open this season.
Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Chriszak7 on December 02, 2014, 12:41:13 PM
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Title: Re: Catania Deal To Buy Lancaster Wasn't Accepted
Post by: Turbo01 on December 02, 2014, 01:39:27 PM
Sweet