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RaceNewYork Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: Lunchbox on November 30, 2013, 09:08:11 PM
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If you were to buy a new street stock chassis how much do people want to spend? I know as cheap as everyone can get it. What kinds of options do people like to get on their car? Do people like the idea of that if you wad the front up do you like the idea that a front and rear hoop bars could be bolt on replacements? And can be bought cheaply? Basically I am looking to make the street stock chassis a version of a modified. Safety is the main concern. Rear ends 7.5 9in 8.8? People Like tall halos or low halo bars. outside mounted shocks or stock locations? Spring cups or weld in adjusters? What other suggestions do people have? I am open to ideas and suggestions?
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the problem with ANY street stock is the rules are different every track you go to and most say the frame has to be stock and wouldn't allow this. I personally wouldn't trust a bolt on section of the car, jmo, I will take a crappy weld over a bolt any day
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The Dirt tracks have more Street Stock standardization rules then the pavement tracks
Examples Ransomville Street Stocks and Canandaigua Pure Stocks are common.
Merrittville and Humberstone Streets stocks and even Ransomvilles are close to the same. Biggest difference is
Merrittville is strictly Hoosier tires. Humberstone, Ransomville and Ohsweken allow Hoosiers and American Racer.
Pavement has one common thing for sure, ALL 3 IN WNY are gonna run on SATURDAYS...They need to switch
and be a local circuit together rather than compete with each other. As veteran Announcer Kenny Hangauer would say
"THIS IS NONSENSICAL"
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The bolt on stuff was done years ago and it worked just fine. It didn't compromise anything as far as chassis safety or handling. If its done right, it's actually cheaper and easier in the long run of those areas get damaged.
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My last post may not have been clear about the bolt on stuff. What I mean is the rad. area that parts get damaged all the time. I am talking about that area. It wont be attached to the main part of the cage. So if it get wrecked then you can replace it with out a welder.
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Obiviosly I think this is a great idea sounds a lot like what I'm trying to do. 9 inch floater is great for safety , outboard shocks can give a team more choices for better shocks that can be repaired over ones for stock location and to me cheaper in the long run, weld in jack bolts make it easier to adjust both at the track and working on setup in the shop giving a little more time not working on the race car.
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Unfortunately a floater, outboard shocks and weight jacks are rule issues. While it may work at some tracks, other tracks will deem the car illegal.
I used to have a car that was built the way Eric is thinking. It really isn't any departure from the norm, it just makes the hoop in the front replaceable in a matter of minutes rather than having to cut and weld. We did some other thing to the chassis to make it more user friendly as well.
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Unfortunately like Daryl said there are only a few tracks allow the outside shocks and the floaters aren't allowed at any tracks. We live in an area that is sort of behind on the times. As for your post I think its a great idea about the box tubing frame rails but like someone said about the dimensions are the problem. I think of a company like we will use gm made them then it wouldn't be an issue. Its like the 602 crates they build them and they are all the same when they leave the factory. When people get them home then that's a different story. So if gm made the boxed frames and you bought it from them then you built a cage etc then I see a great thing there. But until that happens or that the tube chassis are allowed in our area we will all be still using metric stock car frames.
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outside shocks are allowed at spencer and some dirt tracks and floaters are allowed at most race tracks now. dimensions are not an issue very easy to check and a lot of time was put into the xyg metric chassis development ( Johnson ) to insure its accuracy and repeatability
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Look at IMCA rules for Street Stocks. Go from there i think
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Have you seen some of them IMCA stock cars three wheelin? Left front off the ground and Left rear all hiked up. Looks pretty wild. Theres a pic of one in the newest paper they send out and its pretty neat. Never seen any of the street stocks around here doing it.