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rsk1139

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Sports Gambling legal
« on: May 14, 2018, 11:54:45 PM »
With Sports Gambling legal at the Federal level I wonder if we will be able to bet on NASCAR in New York State?


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Re: Sports Gambling legal
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2018, 03:43:04 AM »
I'm wondering about legalized betting at local tracks. There are theories that's what saved horse racing. Could it save the small tracks?
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2018, 11:01:53 AM »
There are theories that's what saved horse racing

 :o :o  HUGE difference.........let me explain.  Horse racing was the only legal betting entity for a long time   and as such sent
a portion of that gambling "take" to the State as a pari-mutuel tax. The more money wagered the more the tracks made and the Government.
As interest in horse wagering has waned so to has the take to the State. The result of that is other forms of gambling  are now allowed and continue to send revenue to the State. Part of that revenue is used to support the purse structure at the horse tracks that really have fallen on hard time.  Actually is a form of welfare to the tracks to keep the horse racing business afloat. Not enough money is coming thru the betting windows to sustain it by itself.  Now short track auto racing is a whole different animal. Since wagering isn't a part of it in the traditional sense and the State doesn't get a "take" from it, it's like any other private business that is subject to market forces to stay afloat and keep operating.  A direct subsidy wouldn't fly politically and you don't want the State getting their hands on it anyway. Racing has enough issues  as it is and having the government "run it" would kill it for sure. 
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Re: Sports Gambling legal
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2018, 01:49:27 PM »
I'm wondering about legalized betting at local tracks. There are theories that's what saved horse racing. Could it save the small tracks?

Seems to me the gambling landscape is full right now.  I heard that Lago is not doing as well as they had hoped.  I trust that any proposal  would be fought by the existing casinos/racinos.  Also - seems like the races could be fixed too easily. In Japan they have legal gambling on boat races but the boats and motors are all the same and you are essentially betting on the skill of the driver.     
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Re: Sports Gambling legal
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2018, 05:05:26 PM »
There are theories that's what saved horse racing

 :o :o  HUGE difference.........let me explain.  Horse racing was the only legal betting entity for a long time   and as such sent
a portion of that gambling "take" to the State as a pari-mutuel tax. The more money wagered the more the tracks made and the Government.
As interest in horse wagering has waned so to has the take to the State. The result of that is other forms of gambling  are now allowed and continue to send revenue to the State. Part of that revenue is used to support the purse structure at the horse tracks that really have fallen on hard time.  Actually is a form of welfare to the tracks to keep the horse racing business afloat. Not enough money is coming thru the betting windows to sustain it by itself.  Now short track auto racing is a whole different animal. Since wagering isn't a part of it in the traditional sense and the State doesn't get a "take" from it, it's like any other private business that is subject to market forces to stay afloat and keep operating.  A direct subsidy wouldn't fly politically and you don't want the State getting their hands on it anyway. Racing has enough issues  as it is and having the government "run it" would kill it for sure.

I know it will never happen and everything you've said is true. It was more of a pipe dream than any realistic expectation of it ever happening.
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