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Title: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: #2 Charger on February 03, 2013, 09:02:56 AM
Any Pros Or Cons With Hans, Hutchens Ect., I'm Buying One But Have Never Used One.
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: Cliff04 on February 04, 2013, 08:21:34 PM
A friend of mine uses the defender. Similar to hans but does not require a special seat
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: Jamesgang on February 04, 2013, 08:25:00 PM
The Hutchens is like walking around with a parachute on and it gets tangled in the seatbealts.

Hans is more money but way more comfortable, and most new SA helmets come with the anchors pre-drilled.

P.S.  Make sure when you're seated in the car there is enough room behind your head for the hans to sit without pushing your head forward. 
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: nwmod39 on February 04, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
I tried a couple different styles that other racers had and went with the simpson rage. definetly comfortable.
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: Claychamp123 on February 05, 2013, 07:32:10 AM
Been using a Hans for about five years in DIRT Modifieds. I like it. The only complaint is, that for an old timer who's used to pulling his belts real tight , you don't feel like your hooked in as snuggly with it on. I think if you could get the over-under belts like the cup guys use it would feel more secure. Also my unit is pre-floating tethers so if someone stops to talk to you when you're strapped in you can't see their mouth unless they stand toward the front of the car.  So unless they're absolutely shouting you can't understand anything they're saying. Small price to keep from suffering a basal skull fracture.
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: oldguy on February 05, 2013, 01:38:35 PM
A well deserved "atta-boy" for Dale using the HANS device.

Price for other brands are less than HANS, but make sure they have the SFI rating.

Get one before you need one.  Please.
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: bigshow39 on February 05, 2013, 02:37:51 PM
yeah this has been something I've wanted to get for the past few years. now i definitely have to get one. I'm leaning towards the HANS
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: Italianracer31 on February 05, 2013, 02:38:53 PM
I bought the HANS a month or two ago off saferacer.com it was $695 but free shipping just an FYI guys
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: Muddslinger on February 05, 2013, 04:59:46 PM
I have a Hutchins and like it other than it does get tangled in the belts like an earlier post said...Also we have been hearing only good things about the NecksGen head and neck restraint and they retail for $599 and are SFI approved...they might be an option other than Hans if you wanted to check it out
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: itchypav on February 05, 2013, 05:25:59 PM
http://www.jayski.com/pages/restraint.htm (http://www.jayski.com/pages/restraint.htm)
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: Rocketman on February 05, 2013, 10:44:55 PM
the simpson rage is good for short trackers, it attched to your body, has better impact rating than the hans front and side, uses the same hookup, and is lower profile on the back side, making it easier to enter and exit with it on........whatever you get something is better than nothing......if you need to ill show you my back x rays from a concord crash without one.......had 3 vertabrae and discs fixed in august of 2011 because of it........at first you wont like them, but the more you wear them you forget about it even being there....

Ricky Knapp
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: MODiFried on February 06, 2013, 01:05:26 AM
watteva keeps my Heros safer(dont skimp on the duration of your career)...do the BEST ya can  ;)
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: bigshow39 on February 06, 2013, 08:18:26 AM
Joe I've been looking at all options and IM leaning towards the Necksgen
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: comdiver11 on February 06, 2013, 02:37:30 PM
I just bought the necksgen and it is comfortable..best bang for your buck
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: bigshow39 on February 06, 2013, 04:44:37 PM
Now I've heated and understand that with some restraints such as the HANS that you can't just use any seat.. is tthis the same with the necksgen? Or does it work with a standard kirky?
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: Muddslinger on February 06, 2013, 08:15:06 PM
If you go on www.necksgen.com (http://www.necksgen.com) and go under the FAQ's page it will answer all your questions...it says it will work with most seats because it'll adjust from 10 degrees to 40 degrees.
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: herm on February 08, 2013, 08:37:25 AM
I can remember watching a Michigan 500 race with Bobby Unser calling the race on TV.Back then all of the drivers in the race wore a simple helment strap to keep their head up and prevent the necks from getting tired from the G forces in the turns,all but one that is.Bobby pointed out the fact that even thow Foyt was past 50 yrs. of age he was so tuff and conditioned, never mine the fact that he weighed more than the others, that he did not need a strap.Many of Foyts races were won on the tuff dirt tracks and as the races were nearing the end no one could run with him.Old films would show the other drivers using their whole upper bodies to work the wheel,where  as Foyt would sit upright only using his arms from the start to the finish.
I know I might have got a little off track here with my post.
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: #2 Charger on February 09, 2013, 12:00:22 PM
Thanks For Some Great Input, I'm Leaning Towards Next Gen & Simpson Rage
Title: Re: Head & Neck Restraints
Post by: reactive1 on February 17, 2013, 12:43:25 AM
I sell the Simpson formerly Safety Solutions Hybrid.
It is the Best protection. The unit was developed utilizing a crash simulator unit called a HYGIE sled.
The Hybrid Rage can take a 1200 NM impact (unprotected)and reduce it under 200 NM. aside from HANS, it is the only other device that is both NASCAR and FIA approved.
It out performs the HANS in angular and matches straight impacts. The reason why they are not widely used in NASCAR is strictly politics. Unless you use a HALO seat system you are very vulnerable using the other units. It employs a seat belt anchor system that ties into lap belts to greatly reduce the neck force.
HANS does not publish their cash numbers. There is a reason for it!
For people who wear the HANS and it feels like the belts are falling off, get in touch with me and I can recommend belts that will greatly reduce this issue.

Dan Koonmen
www.reactivechassisco.com (http://www.reactivechassisco.com)