Holy frigen sh. It.  Final destination. 
How sad.   And scary.   NASCAR needs to. Do away with metal bodies  at these high speed tracks or somethin. Like a frigen sheet metal bomb.  So sad. I can't believe they are  even going to race tomorrow still. 
May god be with all who were Injured. God bless!!

scratch that figured it out

i might ad this car in vid was running a stock exhaust system / shang lets u run a header this had a ranger manifold  they also allow a bigger intake this had a stock 2 barrel intake.  and was under cammed for this track.   so  could be even faster with a few changes.

 

racer 76  that 10 car is a top notch rwd   and id put any $ on it  it walk on the fwds  so not feeling your fwd vs rwd  stetment  the problem with the fwd is weight most those fwd cars are damn lite   rwd need to be 2300-2500#s  you make the crxs and vws the same weight and a good rwd is walkn a fwd   ive done it! and know that 10 car could do it easy!!!

the mustangs have more motor  its all about the weight advantage the fwds have

shang 2 opened the class for the rwd and fwd  race together   but they made the fwds weight a minimum 2100  and they got 0 cars for there reg season
they had some damn good rules to to make for some pretty racey cars either fwd or rwd and 0 showed up. 

"No Offense, But They Are An Entry Level Car."

let me touch this subject 1 last time  there the most affordable racecar out of the 4 divisions available to race  so i guess that makes them entry level race cars
but only because they cost $5000 to build and run vs ss that run $15-20+ thousand dollars  still no need for the label they simply just dont cost as much to build!

these rwd minis are set up alot like the street stocks are.  and are really just scaled down versions of street stocks,   there is no need to have to cater to a certain class and say what class is the supposed to be the fun class or entry level  there all fun and there all race cars in the end they deserve to be called 4 cyls or mini stocks  just like ss are called street stocks and sport mod are call sport mods and so on.... 

i helped out a pair of brothers last yr with 2 asphalt ministocks  now they had the best parts $ can buy that the rule book allows, yes they were around 5-6000 dollars in parts when all said and done  but they are about the same lap times as there fellow ss  and in no way can you put together a 6000$ ss they were and are untouchable  and are nothing short of a race car.  again cut the entry level garbage  cause with that label folks who dont know much about the cars think they should be built using junkyard parts  and bone stock and only raced by  guys with no expierence and only ran a season or two before you should move up bla bla bla ect..  im sorry but they shouldnt  theres nothing wrong with a racey 4cyl built with race parts that in the end runs around $5000 to build a snotty reliable ministock 4cyl!!!   Please  yall just try and understand these are racecars non the less and just because there the most affordable built racecar they dont need to be labeled entry level.  Ive see quite a few modified and seasoned vets run these rwd 4cyls who all had a ton of high dollar racecar expierence...  the were def not entry level racers!

Ive ran and helped out with minis ss mods dirt late models ect  and i raced to have fun   and you are doing just that in a ministock  you win the same 20$ plastic trophy in a 4cyl as you do in a modified and these 4cyls are 1/2 the maintence as a higher dollar class of car.   the legends cars are pretty entry level in my opinion but there called legends cars not the advanced go kart class... or clown car class ect  the class is legends

give the guys who race these 4cyls a little respect  drop the entry level label and relize that they are just another form / class of car and in my opinion one of the funest cars to race for the fact that you dont have to remortgage your house every yr to have a competive fast racecar and most importantly a little fun!!  even the higher end race parts for these 2.3 minis are very affordable match good parts with good drivers and you have a very competive fun racey class!     

The 4cyl  class  needs to be called   ****4 cylinders or minstocks plan and simple****   please cut the entryclass bs 
there all entry level depends how much $ you wanna spend to go racing.  to all the boys and girls running ministocks this season  have fun and race hard!!   

4cyls are considered low budget and entry level class of cars  and there for looked down uppon like there a joke or somthing
( the entire bone stock class is pretty pathetic and embarassing, but the actuall mini stock type 4cyls are def a race car)

im sorry but to me its another form of racecar / another class like legends cars, street stocks, sst mods , nascar mods ect  all race cars just different class and different $ to opperate.
i ran rwd 4cyls for yrs and help out a few guys that still do  and know everything there is to know about 2.3 4cyls  you can get a damn nice mini street stock race car for under $5000  and believe me it will go around the track damn good,  but its still looked down on and considered  entry level.  when in fact it is just another class of car/racecar,  it should not be considered entry, enduro , low budget ect  its just another class of car period.

people need to eliminate the term entry level and lowbudget!!!  racing is pricey regardless of class  thats up to the racer to choose what class they can afford!!  they all cost $  $3000-$75,000 dollars you pick!!   

but we need to remeber the people who are hating on the class are grand stand racers never been in a race car whats so ever and have no clue how good the 4cyls actually get around the track sitting in the drivers seat! if u put the 4cyls on a  stop watch   they are with in a second of the next class up street stocks that costs 15-$20,000 to run!  w/ that said  the 4cyls deserve alot more credit then they get!!!

the 2.3 fords make a damn nice almost street stock sound   lots of blub @ idle real throaty!! 

** i will say the the fwd  4cyls are extremely terrible sounding.   another and probally the worst sounding car is legend cars  omg they sound terrible and then the popcorn sound they make when off throttle.

race cars soundnt have mufflers at leasr not a street type muffler like the 4cyls are suppossed to run kills the power.
 schoenfield makes a real nice muffler  for like 20$

 thats 1 of the many rules that make no sense made by some one who really doesnt have a clue. 

Racing Gods 72   hey I asked the same ? with great info  ill pass it along to u





Good luck jimmy  definetly a expierence  have fun at least!

Re: Daytona - modifieds


http://hometracks.nascar.com/Comprehensive_Coverage_Set_For_Daytona_UNOH-Battle-At-The-Beach

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if i dare   give me a break.

they dont need to copy the nascar awards  at some big a s s fancy place!!  a simple down to earth little award  event is sufficent
definitley better then nothing at all!!  thats all im try n to say. 

christ even do n something at the track i remember andy doin that when i raced at tioga  yea it sucked and was cheap  but again better then nothing!!