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RaceNewYork Discussion => Racing Discussion => Topic started by: raceannouncer on June 23, 2018, 05:54:50 PM
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FOR DISCUSSION:
SARVER, Pa. — DIRTcar officials have suspended legendary dirt late model ace Scott Bloomquist for not participating in random drug testing on Friday during Firecracker 100 weekend at Lernerville Speedway.
Bloomquist, 54, was one of 16 drivers randomly selected by a blind draw completed by a member of the Lernerville track crew. According to a DIRTcar Racing penalty report, Bloomquist had five hours to complete the test after not being able to provide a sample during initial check in with Drug Free Sport.
The other 15 drivers completed the sampling, with three drivers requiring two attempts to provide an adequate sample.
World of Outlaws Craftsman Late Model Series Director Matt Curl made multiple attempts to assist Bloomquist to the testing area. Drug Free Sport and series officials set an 11 p.m. deadline for Bloomquist to meet with Drug Free Sport officials and provide his sample, but he failed to arrive by the deadline.
Drug Free Sport, the organization that oversees World Racing Group’s substance abuse policy, classified his absence as a “test refusal” according to the DIRTcar penalty report.
As a result, Bloomquist has been suspended for 90 days from all DIRTcar competition and fined $1,000. He can reduce the suspension to 60 days should he complete an alcohol or drug education program. He must also pass two drug tests during the final 14 days of his suspension.
Bloomquist’s suspension comes on the heels of his controversial victory in the June 9 Dirt Late Model Dream at Ohio’s Eldora Speedway. He was selected for a random drug test, but fell in the mud after a rain storm and was taken to the hospital on June 8, causing him to miss his drug test.
Tom Deery, the World Racing Group’s president and chief operating officer, told SPEED SPORT that all signs indicated the Eldora incident was a fluke situation and that Bloomquist would go back into the random testing pool right away.
“Drug Free has said that, obviously, the next opportunity we have to test Scott, we will. He’ll fall right back into the system. This doesn’t give him a get out of jail card. He’s back into the system now,” Deery told SPEED SPORT.
Bloomquist told DirtonDirt.com that he plans to undergo rotator cuff surgery to fix the injured shoulder from the fall at Eldora. The surgery is expected to keep him out of action at least three months.
Bloomquist is second in the Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series standings with the next race scheduled June 30 at Ohio’s Portsmouth Raceway Park. Bloomquist competed in and finished fourth in last weekend’s 100-lap Clash at the Mag Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series race at Mississippi’s Magnolia Motor Speedway.
He explained that after a dismal showing in his heat race on Friday night at Lernerville Speedway that saw him spin on lap two, he told his team to pack up and leave the track. He said he was unaware that he’d be required to come back and complete the drug test and by the time he found out he had to return, it was too late.
He said he plans to continue to field his No. 0 dirt late model in select events while he recovers from surgery with a driver that will be announced later.
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I wonder how much this really matters since he runs mostly the Lucas Oil series.
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I would hope that Lucas has him tested also.
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If you look back into the archives I don't think this is the first time he has done this I'm almost positive he was also suspended in the past for failing drug tests
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Meh who cars. Good for him. Weed is legal in a bunch of states and medicinally in over half. Assuming thats maybe what he could of had in him. Not a big deal. These sanctions will have to review their policies sooner or later and get with the times. Its wrong that someone could smoke a week ago be clean for 7 days, go race and fail a test and have their career ruined when they where not under the influence.
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I do not agree with you attitude about DRUGS. Anyone perfotmong at the level of a racing driver must be clear of any drugs, I ask.. Why should mylife be put in jeapardy because of anuther driver's lifestyle! My God,, where has raxing GONE when someoine thinks its ok to race with any type of DRUGS in their system! Bloomquist just needs to grow up.
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Im sorry but I fully disagree. It can take up to 30 days for Marijuana to come out of your system. That does not mean its still effecting your actions. I think we need to remove this stigma of whats legal and not. Walk through the pits and ask how many are on high blood pressure medication? Are you any more or less safe in a car with 10 other drivers that are all on HBP and could have a heart attack in the car at any moment? Cause lets face it, racing gets the blood pumping, adreneline. you already have HBP, sure your on meds but your heart rate just went through the roof cause your doing 120 mph door to doo. I'd rather be out there with the guy that smoked the joint 20 days ago but would still fail the drug test. What about antidepressants with all of their side effects. Do i want to be on the track with someone whos all hopped up on Prozac, Welbutrin or any of them other drugs that make you crap out your guts, puke in your helmet and cause suicidal thoughts? or the guy that smoked a joint 20 days ago that is experience zero effects but could still fail a drug test. Lets use some common sense here folks.
Yes I full agree nobody should be in a racecar if your drunk, stoned or just blew a few lines. Never. but to say you fail a drug test, your wasted in the racecar is just false assumptions.
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About 15 years ago my brother was fired from a good job because he had smoked a joint at a party. They did a random drug test.
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NO,, any drugs in your body or blood system are very bad for a racing driver, Alcohal in your system is bad for memory and judgement, these are pure meficak facts, I am not a doctor but I have talked with a few and they all said the same thong...drugs in your system are not good especially for racing. It is sad to be discussing this here,,, I have raced for many years in both Canada and the US,, I have seen drug use over those years in racing,,, it was NEVER good, I love racing..its a true SPORT,,, people do die,,, but DRUGS have NO PLACE IN THE SPORT! Racing cars is NOT like baseball, ect,, ect..hockey.... your statement about all drugs being in druvers systems is unfair,,, I doubt that you are a doctor, your statements are unfair, unprovern and quite negative, I disagree with your comments about drugs and wonder about your past racing expiriences,,,,, PS// I have raced for more than 30 years,,, I do beleive I know the racing sport,
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Dan19n your an ***** just cuz it's in his system doesn't mean it's affecting him. I guess in your case anyone who drinks a beer the night before can't race either cuz alcohol stays in your urine for 3 to 4 days. Just cuz a crack head can pass a drug test after 5 days and it takes someone who was simply smoking a dubby 30 days. It's unfair period. You can snort lines and be clean in 3 days. I would much rather be out there with a pot head than a junkie
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Sorry Idi ot is a bad word. Dan u need to think out of the box and not be so concealed in your ways. I'm sure lots of people you know smoke pot and you probably don't even know
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Dan your 100% wrong on this issue. Just because its in your system, does not mean it is having adverse effects on you. Science has proven that. As for my racing experience, not that i need to justify it to you but grew up going to the track. Started helping a dirt mod sb/bb team around 2000 for several years. I have owned and driven my own car for 7+ years and are currently building a new car.
I do agree with you 100%, drugs have no place on the track. Nobody should be under the influence on the track. But if its in your system its not an issue.
I see you glossed over my comments on high blood pressure medication, smoking cessation drugs and anti depressants. Do you happen to be on any of them?
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I am so tired of this stupid argument. I am with 0329. Unless you have smoked pot you need to pull your head out of the sand. Our government and a lot of folks endorse the insanity of Alcohol yet it is a social disaster. How many people die or are maimed on the roads each day. Family's RIPPED apart by alcoholism. If we had a race track full of drunk people what would happen? The cops would have to come. What would happen if we had a race track full of stoned people. NOTHING. Everyone is walking around taking some b#ll sh$t drug our government endorses (promoted by the big Drug Company's), Zanax, etc, etc,. I do not endorse anyone on the track under the influence of anything. I am just tired of the hypocrisy, the insanity that weed is so evil and alcohol is RIGHT.
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They want to take away my guns to solve sensless deaths by deranged killers but no one wants to ban Budwiser. People are killed by the hundreds every day on our roads yet no mention of a ban on alcohol. The judge that sentences a unfortunate soul to jail for growing some weed in his back yard so he can relax, goes home and throws back 3-4 Manhattans. Hypocrisy !!
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lively discussion! I am quite surprised at the posts in favor of drugs being ok in your system. Not that I am perfect,, I drank heavily in my early years,, but never raced while under the influence,, no doubt I had much alcohol still in my system. But as we age and learn we understand racing better, NO drugs should be in your system that means the ones I didn't mention. How can I be clear? Why are such people thinking its ok to match drugs with racing? I have seen the effects of alcohol and other drugs in racing, on friends families and lifestyle... it wasn't good. MY feeligs are that no drug has any place in racing,, Very sorry it does not agree with yours, your opinions are only yours and mine are only mine,,,, drugs of any kind have no plsce in racing...I am very lucky to have raced most of my life,,,, motorcycles, boats (outboards and Inboards) sports cars, 600sprints, gokarts. 395sprints and I have competed in Clay target shooting events sincee I was 8 yrs old. I know competition and love it,,,,, there is no room for drugs,
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I guess I have alot of time on my hands today... the subject.. Scott Bloomquist,,, he is a professional driver, he should know he must follow the rules ... all of them.... its his choice. the race officials have their jobs spelled out to them and SHOULD follow those rules. If you don't agree with the rules work to get them changed. It all seems simple to me. Either submit and follow rules or go do something else. No doubt he has great ability,, I enjoyed watching him race,, I guess it is up to him what he wants to do.........
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The answer is simple. Do you want to race or would you rather do drugs? Choose one.
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Sounds like they like hassling him for winning all the time.. maybe someone has a hard on for him... maybe it’s why he wins all the time...
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lively discussion! I am quite surprised at the posts in favor of drugs being ok in your system. Not that I am perfect,, I drank heavily in my early years,, but never raced while under the influence,, no doubt I had much alcohol still in my system. But as we age and learn we understand racing better, NO drugs should be in your system that means the ones I didn't mention. How can I be more clear? Why are such people thinking its ok to match drugs with racing? I have seen the effects of alcohol and other drugs in racing, on friends families and lifestyle... it wasn't good. MY feeligs are that no drug has any place in racing,, Very sorry it does not agree with yours, your opinions are only yours and mine are only mine....drugs of any kind have no place in racing...I am very lucky to have raced most of my life,,,, motorcycles, boats (outboards and Inboards) sports cars, 600sprints, gokarts. 395sprints and I have competed in Clay target shooting events since I was 8 yrs old. I know competition and love it,,,,, there is no room for drugs,
Excellent post!
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I also love the lively and intellectual discussion on this topic! Regardless of anyone's feelings of drugs vs. alcohol, it's immaterial...the sanctioning body's rule is in place. Its validity can be debated, but it's there. He refused to follow the rule and the penalties were handed down accordingly. He needs to abide by them if he wants to race again! Pretty simple concept!
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It’s the slow death of NASCAR as far as upstate ny is concerned which trickles down to bad management
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Ooops wrong post
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Dan19, I respect and understand your opinion. I don't think anyone should race under the influence of anything. I just think it is total BS that someone can smoke a joint in the safety of his own home but then test positive 2 weeks later. They treat you like you were stoned before you got in the car and you are a Druggie/Burn out. That's Wrong.
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Paz well put
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Paz is right. What has been lost in this discussion is that bloomquist did not fail a drug test. He failed to submit to the drug test. Therefor by the rules has been suspended. Only he knows the reason and I'm sure he knew the consequence so end of discussion.
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Paz is right. What has been lost in this discussion is that bloomquist did not fail a drug test. He failed to submit to the drug test. Therefor by the rules has been suspended. Only he knows the reason and I'm sure he knew the consequence so end of discussion.
beersy26 has spoken. nobody else is allowed to comment on this thread because he said so. ::)
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I found this on the internet. The effects of smoking marijuana fade quickly, but can be detected in the body for weeks and sometimes longer. Most researchers agree that urine tests for marijuana can detect the presence of the drug in the body for up to 13 days. How long it remains in the system depends on how often or how much marijuana the user has been smoking.
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Well we all know we have one dead sprint car driver that had the ***** in his system...now this is not a fact this is just what I read......
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Well we all know we have one dead sprint car driver that had the ***** in his system...now this is not a fact this is just what I read......
The levels in his system where indicative of smoking within hours of the race per the toxicology reports. Totally different than a guy that smoked 2 weeks ago.
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Failure to submit a test is just like saying your on drugs you work for a municipality your gone how hard is it to pee in a cup... I just had to do it in February oh and while I was sitting there I got picked to breathalyze took about 10 mins total so there were 17 drivers picked to test 16 drivers tested and 1 did not how hard is this to figure out .
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Andy, if you want to continue discussing whether pot should be allowed at some level in your system then knock yourself out. I was simply reiterating that we dont know what bloomguist was doing if anything. Really no need for the attitude and the ::)
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there is no room for drugs :o :o Oh really? Better tell that to society because they are slowly surely becoming legal.
Anybody who thinks that will keep it out of racing is a fool. Mandatory testing will become the norm in local racing and you will see a
decrease in the number of people who participate and that is NOT a good thing.
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I must just be too old for the "TIMES" I always thought when you raced it was important to follow the rules.. maybe be creative on engine rules BUT safety rules always must be followed. Prescription drugs,, something prescribed by a doctor.. shoulld you race? I raced with alergy meds in my system,,, was that ok? I am not sure where the bounderys are on this subject. But I do know drug use... dope... has no place in racing. And why people think it is ok to race with any traces of dope in their system,,, tells me its time for testing!
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Drug test this morning on the thruway everyone complied no one fell down or walked off the job it was pretty easy !!! Come on Lucas have him tested..
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Stink gave me another breathalyzer twice in 3 months now.
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Winning, winning and smoking them again last nite.. Like Trump, BLACK SUNSHINE keeps on winning!!
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Well the drug lady showed up on the thruway the other night at midnight Charlie didn't run and hide didn't fall down didn't gripe or complain that there infringing on my privacy just gave them a sample and signed my name it's quite an easy process.
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Charlie would you mind if they randomly went through your home looking for stolen merchandise? You've got nothing to hide right?
Look up the meaning of sheeple.
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Well the drug lady showed up on the thruway the other night at midnight Charlie didn't run and hide didn't fall down didn't gripe or complain that there infringing on my privacy just gave them a sample and signed my name it's quite an easy process.
Charlie would you mind if they randomly went through your home looking for stolen merchandise? You've got nothing to hide right?
Look up the meaning of sheeple.
"UM", on this one, I think you're confusing apples and oranges. The NYS Thruway is public property, while "Charlie's" house is private property....
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The Fourth
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
( red highlights mine). Your personal privacy rights are suspended because you're a public servant?
Neither the Fourth or the Fifth addresses such an exception in it's plain read of the text.
If you live "in public" housing would give up your rights then?
It's just an awful twist of logic that someone in public employment has to pee for their pay while those on the public dole (supported in part by those very public employees) are not required to pee for theirs. :-\
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My brother is a hazmat hauler for a local company. His drug test (annual) is ordered by his company through a physician at his DOT physical. Can Charlie explain the Thruway deal?
I agree with UM. I parked in a handicapped spot at work with no sticker, and someone complained, and I came out to my car to find an overweight, overpaid, arrogant Sheriff's "deputy" ransacking my car and refusing to get out of it when I asked if he had a warrant or probable cause. His comment was "I'm just trying to figure out who owns this POS." There are many of the men and women in blue who I would lay down my life for, because they do strive to protect and serve. That guy was only protecting his pension and serving as many donuts as he could eat. Unless there is probable cause - a beer bottle visible, smell of an illegal substance, etc - NO ONE has the right to invade your privacy.
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If you live in "public" housing would give up your rights then?
It's just an awful twist of logic that someone in public employment has to pee for their pay while those on the public dole (supported in part by those very public employees) are not required to pee for theirs. :-\
I agree that living in "public" housing, in other words, subsidized housing, presents a murky situation, since the taxpayers are paying the person's rent, and I, personally, don't feel that I should be required to indirectly help support someone's drug habit. And the idea of drug testing for welfare benefits, again, while a potentially sticky situation, doesn't bother me, because once again, the taxpayers (you and I) are subsidizing someone's existence, so it's only fair that we/they have the ability to put conditions on that assistance.
If you're talking about drug testing for one's job, ESPECIALLY if that job has a person operating a motor vehicle or piece of construction equipment, than I agree that it should be done. I also feel, however, that it's a sad set of circumstances, when so many people feel that they need recreational drugs and/or alcohol, just to make it through their day. Given my somewhat advanced age, I didn't have to be subjected to drug testing during the first part of my working life. However, about a year after I retired from my full-time job of 37 years, I was asked to join one of the "big box" auto parts stores, as a delivery driver.
I had some time on my hands, and SS hadn't kicked in yet, so I agreed to do so. It was the first time in my life that I was subjected to a drug test, at the age of 57. It was eye opening, as I hadn't quite realized how deeply the drug culture had invaded American life.
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"I'm just trying to figure out who owns this POS."
My retort to officer fatazz would have been. " Run the plate clown" if he needed to know who the owner was.
I certainly would have lodged a formal complaint if it went down as you say.
Leadfoot there are plenty of people who drive a motor vehicle for pay that are NOT required to pee for the government.
Us CDL holders are because of a 1991 law passed by the Feds called OTETA. Ominbus Transportation Employee Testing Act.
Google Ricky Gates/ Conrail Chase, Md 1987 for it's genesis. Pre employment and post accident I don't have a problem with but
random I do. This is a dangerous overreach by the government and is part of a slowly but surely creeping encroachment on our rights.
We citizen better soon wake the F up before they are gone.
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Thruway does pre hire and after accident whether it's your fault or not and at least 4 randoms a year it was a 1st time ever in the middle of night shift the other night they have caught a bunch of guys over the years with drugs and or alchohol in there system .
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Leadfoot there are plenty of people who drive a motor vehicle for pay that are NOT required to pee for the government.
This is a dangerous overreach by the government and is part of a slowly but surely creeping encroachment on our rights.
We citizen better soon wake the F up before they are gone.
"UM", in many cases drivers, or prospective drivers, have to pass a drug test, in order to either maintain or obtain their job. HOWEVER, it isn't necessarily government driven, rather insurance driven.
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L4: your response regarding insurance companies "driving" these tests (pun intended!) certainly has merit...but let's not forget about the long-running love affair both entities have had for years whose relationship negatively affects many people in their daily lives!
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L4: your response regarding insurance companies "driving" these tests (pun intended!) certainly has merit...but let's not forget about the long-running love affair both entities have had for years whose relationship negatively affects many people in their daily lives!
All I can add is this...after retiring from "full-time" work, in 2008, I relaxed for a year, and literally did nothing more strenuous than cut my lawn. However, I was still rather young, and also felt guilty sitting home, while my wife still worked her part-time gig. I was in one of the local auto parts stores, picking up some supplies for a project, and the store manager, who I kina' knew, asked if I would consider working part-time for the store, driving a delivery truck.
I felt that a little "pocket money" wouldn't hurt, so I took the job. And in 2009, at the age of 57, I had to submit to a drug test, for the first time in my life. It was either that, or no job, and the company's regional manager told me that it was for insurance and liabilities concerns. The store didn't want any possible lawsuits stemming from an intoxicated individual being involved in a crash, while on the job.
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Now Lucas oil series has fined bloomquist why cant he just behave and race this garbage follows him.
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Now Lucas oil series has fined bloomquist why cant he just behave and race this garbage follows him.
I think this is a question that a lot of people ask. But I think he gets a lot of mileage (and moolah) out of these sort of stunts. Everytime he acts like this, it helps build his outlaw image. Being perceived as a bad ***** worked very well for that guy in NASCAR in the #3.
At the end of the day I don't think Bloomquist gives a crap about 500 bucks becuase that stunt probably help sell $5000 worth of Bloomer t-shirts down in Florida. People love that stuff. My $.02
Go Nemecheck!
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It seems to me neither series wants him .
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And for all the haters... Black Sunshine sets fast time at East Bay tonight 😜
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Bloomer 4th in the feature for a 2750$ pay day. Davenport gets the win.