Thank you for the input guys ! I appreciate it.
That link was very informative . thank you 4b316.

How does sponsorship work ? If some one wanted to sponsor my team and pay for advertising on my car what would be the guidlines on the accountants point of view. For example, if I wanted to charge x amount of dollars for x amount of space on my car. How would it work? Is there any need to sign any sort of contract? Does the sponsor have to have legal documents of everything they spent? Such as a check that states its for advertisng? Or receipts for purchases? I wonder this  because is it possible that sponsorship is a write off for taxes? Theer must be some sort of bennifit for the sponsor other than possible buisiness from the advertising.
 How does it usually work on the advertising team's end. I have never sought out sponsors in the past because I only raced for fun. Never wanted to be committed to showing up every event. I always raced when I felt like it. Having a sharp looking car every week and being there every week is the advertiser responsibility. I beleive your reputation reflects on your sponsors.
 How have some of you obtained your sponsors? I know a lot of people will say family or old freinds. But I want to hear from the people that obtained some from doing the foot work. How did you go about selling yourself? Did you do an essay on your self much like in the form of a resume ? Did you knock on business doors? whats your story ?
I am hoping to hear some good input that every driver in every class might be able to use.

well there is a cure for the push you are talking about m2vrace......It is a proper set up with a welded or posi front end.Good racing tires and a driver with balls.If you have a fwd set up right it will go where you point the wheels and the rear will follow.The problem with some tracks is they kill the fwd class with trying to keep it too stock.I know it is a beginner class,but when you cant set an already crappy handling car up to go faster due to rules it makes it more of a wreck fest.At brewerton speedway and now fulton we don't have those rules.With the exception of stock location on suspension parts and no racing shocks.

Brewerton gets around 20 cars a night.And usually more cars than the IMCA.The racing there is close usually with two to three fighting for position.So nice racing to watch.Of couse like Andy said there is one guy that usually wins.But he is just some one you have to set out to beat.Chuck does it on a low budget.He doesn't have much in his engine.He just knows how to build a car and set it up.there is no one is beating him cause they don't want to do their homework on how to build an engine or don't want to spend the money.I was keeping up with him pretty good with my little 1590cc sohc  that i did a cheap rebuild on.Stephens saab was practically stock and it has beat him numerous times.just handles good.Once again that is due to the track allowing racing tires.

lets just face it FWD 4 cyls are the street stock of today.Go to the junk yard and tell me what you see.The problem people have with them (especially the old timers) is they don't have the deep v8 sound and they don't tail slide around the corner.Some guys don't make their cars look nice,like they just got done with a demo derby.A nicely built 4 cyl with an aluminum body and good cage is attractive.It looks like a mini modified or mini street stock.Hence the mini stock name.Mini stocks are no longer just mustangs.They are getting fazed out also with the fwd.Why?you might ask.$$$$ thats why.I can buld a 225 hp sohc honda for a fraction of the cost of a 2300 ford and the fwd will pull itself through the corners faster than the rwd.Pluss availability.How many 80's 4cyl mustangs you see on cl that arent already a race car?How many accords and neons?

Here is one for ya.How about they make a turbo FWD class.I can build a "conservative"350 hp 1590cc SOHC honda on forced induction for about 1200-2000 bucks.Put that in a well built fwd on racing tires you have a car that will be real quick and fun.Still way cheaper than any other class.Even the dogs.hell isnt that what they get out of their 602 crates that cost something like $5000.00 before all the bolt ons?I know guys that have twice that in mustang motors that are around 180 hp.There are guys getting a conservative 650 hp out of dohc 1.8 and 2.2 Forced Induction engines all day long.The prices are high in this idea starting from 2500-? on an engine.But that is still half of what a front runner imca or mod lite engine will cost.

Mark my words.Times are changing.The fwds are not just going to be junk cars banging around the track in the future.There is alot of potential with the fwd 4 cyls.

If no vtecs are allowed u need to make all varriably timed engines not allowed to keep it fair.and a sohc vtec has less power than a dohc non varriable timed engine.funny how people automatically think vtec is like turbo.haha.google it.all kinds of varriable timed enges out there but honda gets the biggest hit for the b series and h series vtec engines.
Just to clear some thing up.vtec is just a third rocker assembly that gives your cam higher lift at a certian rpma and oil psi.its so u can have feul.economy and some few more hp when passing someone in traffic.put a cam on a non vtec and its the same thing.take a neon and shave the head and send the cam to colt or delta for a regrind and u have more power than a vtec sohc engine can produ e in stock form
Funny how imca sport compact rules allow the sohc varriably timed engines(vtec) but not ANY dohc varriably timed engines.if you wanna know why just google it.don't have the time to explain the difference right now.

yOU NEVER KNOW.i GOT YOU 5 MORE.

Haha.me either.I think the more - attaboys i have the better i am doing.Damn i am only to -12.Too bad i am a grown adult and don't want to waste my time reading all the danica hype and arguing with her(him) and his followers..

 But i really would like to know where the + attaboys come from.Ya know like a thank you or a good job high five bro.But ya have no clue.Guess i should have suggested it in the beginning of the new raceny,like i suggested the tech section.

I have to thank Mike Moshier at Mosiers Racing Engines in Phoenix.HE took the time out for a couple minutes and checked it for me this morning.Nice when a guy can take some time out to help a little 4cyl guy.He is Great guy to deal with.He has done a few cranks and heads for me and has great prices and turn around times.Even when he is swamped with getting out the big guys v8's.Thanks Mike.

Machine shops around here are real busy.If you have a dial bore guage and a mic i will give ya some cash for ya to measure my PTW for me.it is a 75mm bore.Had some light surface rust on the cyls of this spare block i had sitting around.I Honed it out and i just don't want to be more than .003.Let me know if ya can.Jake.315-706-9008.