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I feel this conversation is pointless but here is my nickel anyway. (inflation) Since the discount is a mere $3 presumably, get rid of it. Three dollars is not going to change many minds about whether or not they will attend. I can get a 10% discount at the restaurant I go to everyday and I never ask for it. Having said that I feel all tracks should offer a half price ticket to anyone with a valid military ID active or retired. It won't cost that much and is a great PR move. Remember that ticket may include many seniors as well. Also keep in mind our military people took a serious hit in pay when they decided to join. Carry on.
  You can not get rid of something they do not have in the first place...I like your idea about the military but personally find issue with only active or retired..If you spend 4 years or in my case 8 years, those individuals are always over looked..The only exception would be the Erie County Fair on Veterans Day free admission...I'm not sure why you feel no respect should be showed to any Seniors..Maybe you feel they are all millionaires like #2Charger seems to think..Of course 2 or 3 dollars is not going to make a difference..But don't tell me your reason for not having a Senior discount is the money you will save on buying concessions..

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John_unaman  and Shamrock 3x, Thank you..I think your points of courtesy and longevity are right on..whether you race, are a fan,or run a race track, you were influenced or introduced to racing by someone who preceded you..I do not think there is any exception to that.

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CharginCharlie, I am not complaining about the added cost for the SST's..My only issue is with the tracks explanation of why a Senior should not receive a discount....I'm not sure how to take the other posters remark of I should just stay home or to meet up?...I am surprised he didn't include directions to the nearest Cemetery

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That could possibly be the lamest excuse for not giving a Senior Discount that has ever been uttered by a human being..You would have been better served just saying..Yes we gave it a thought and F--k them..You know tonight I asked your ticket lady about the discount which I did receive ($3) at Oswego last Saturday...And she apologized to me and mentioned she had brought it up at some meeting...I am assuming it was the meeting Ya'll decided I could save $2 on a crappy hot dog....Oh I am glad to see you are generous to 1st responders with and up coming event..Maybe they can give me a kick start when I go tits up in stands..You can tell them not to bother checking my wallet. It will be empty of any money. I guess I should be thankful  you didn't consider the kids race and event or it may have been $30

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Racing Discussion / Re: 5 Mile Updates
« on: 12 Oct, 2013 19:54 »
Is that a typo or did you say there were 78 mods there?

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Racing Discussion / Re: 9/14/13 E.B.R.P. Results
« on: 15 Sep, 2013 14:51 »
Ok Charlie, what is your definition of a Decent Crowd? there were twice as many people in the pit area..I also noticed your sympathy for Andy J..Seems to me Skora III was the victim..Especially since Andy admitted his car was faulty and he should have pulled off...But you were right it was a Great race...with and anti climatic finish

I was trying to be positive. From where I was sitting, it looked like a couple hundred people. I expected less. No sympathy. It was a simple observation. I know Andy admitted he had a problem. Not sure anyone leading with 3 to go would pull off.....I know I wouldn't, unless the problem was terminal. Would you? I agree, Skora was the victim. He looked like he had the fastest car.
That is what he told me after the  race in hindsight he would have considering the damage to his car..but I suppose he thought he could hang on..George was faster at that point I agree

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Racing Discussion / Re: 9/14/13 E.B.R.P. Results
« on: 15 Sep, 2013 12:50 »
Ok Charlie, what is your definition of a Decent Crowd? there were twice as many people in the pit area..I also noticed your sympathy for Andy J..Seems to me Skora III was the victim..Especially since Andy admitted his car was faulty and he should have pulled off...But you were right it was a Great race...with and anti climatic finish

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Racing Discussion / Re: 9/14/13 E.B.R.P. Results
« on: 15 Sep, 2013 09:44 »
Good night of racing. Respectable car counts. Decent crowd. Andy J, Skora, and Jimmy Z. put on one hell of a show battling for the lead. Too bad for Andy J. He got sideways loose going into 1 and Skora had nowhere to go. They both wound up in the wall.
  Decent Crowd? What would you consider 50 people a sellout?

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Fans arent coming due to low car counts..your premier class wont allow cars willing to compete because they have Crate Motors..Like there burning up the tracks? not to mention the fans are afraid of killing themselfs when the bleachers collapse

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If you street stockers can't behave you can't drink beer at Holland either

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True, there were 11 streets signed in. After a rather heated debate with Ralph in the drivers meeting over penalties from the previous week, we were 'offered' the option to load up and leave. 9 teams chose to do so....including me....sad day for me, I've been a fan, official and driver spanning 20 years and now I'm banned from the facility for standing my ground about what we felt was right....I don't know what else to say other then I will get the chance to run Perry & Holland in the next few weeks and have some fun racing.....

So what were the penalties that made everyone leave?

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holland didnt have the sniffer.. one of the teams did.. the guy that did the sniffing (Sgt Shultz from Hogans Heroes) wasn't in and official's uniform either..And he damn sure didnt know that sniffer had a memory.

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Racing Discussion / Re: Holland Predictions
« on: 07 Jul, 2013 09:36 »
My bad on 51, Had heard he was tossed for Carb..obviously not true

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Racing Discussion / Re: Holland Predictions
« on: 07 Jul, 2013 00:25 »
Eleven won then he got tossed..60 takes win..Fifty one third got tossed..Andy J moves up to second but wrecked with Emerling at the flag taking out Flag stand canceling racing for the nite and sending flagger to the hospital

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